America Does not have a violence or gun problem. America has a black problem

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  1. dairyair

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    Who is trying to pass them into college?
    Isn't this about getting them to graduate HS, mostly?
    Are you shifiting the focus or has that been your intent all along? To stop blacks from getting into college as much because they score lower on IQ tests?
    Are you back to claiming this is a skin color issue and not a poverty issue, or social indifference issue, or racial discrimination issues as I showed you was a cause from one of your own links.

    Lets take your idea further, and anyone who is under 125 or IQ is not allowed college period.
     
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    Yes, we know. I bet you are thrilled with the Mass Murderer in NZ also. We get it, dude.
     
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    Says you.
     
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    The purpose his post serves is that lefties never look at proportional data. For example: 10 blacks apply for a job and 90 whites apply for the same job. 4 blacks get hired and 6 whites get hired. The left will cry racism even though proportionally, MORE blacks got hired. OP is just showing you the same concept with murder statistics. Embrace math!
     
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    The Common defense is part of the common law. It is not the general defense, for a very good reason. Our welfare clause is general.
     
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    why does the right wing only blame the Poor?
     
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    Obviously you don’t know anything about affirmative action. Whites for hundreds of years had to be half as good to get slated and now it’s bothering you that blacks are getting considered
     
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    They don’t know what discrimination is. Maybe if they had to sit on the back of the bus for generations they would understand. Maybe if they didn’t allow men into the best networking universities they would understand. Maybe if they didn’t allow white men to get loans in their own names they would understand
     
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    It's really not about race. it's about economics....

    In places where poor whites make up the majority of poor people, they also make up the majority of criminals.....

    In place where poor blacks do, it's them.....



    It also has to do with cerain crimes...

    White people make up the vast majority of child molesters and human traffickers (Because the Russians and Armenians control basically the whole market), as well as bank robberies, armored care robberies, and drugs (for certain drugs...powder cocaine, pills, heroin, meth). White people also carry out the majority of mass shootings, and make up the vast majority of serial killers, As well as the majority of domestic terrorist attacks.
     
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    I blame bleeding heart liberals who want to wipe every nose slightly more than I blame lazy people for taking the money
     
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    Good for them. We need thousands more doing the same.
     
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    Employment and education should be based on merit not color. Affirmative action puts color ahead of merit.
     
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    we should be solving actual socio-economic phenomena.
     
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    https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5981d9b6e4b0353fbb33e1bb/amp
     
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    What exactly do you think Affirmative Action is?

    And I'm not saying they shouldn't be allowed in college? I'm saying they should get into college based on merit and MERIT ALONE. If a white person has better scores than a black person, he should get in. If the black guy has better scores than the white guy he should get in ahead of him. If a black guy has better scores than an Asian then the black guy should get in, in front.

    What we should not do is be spending taxpayer funds attempting to artificially inflate their scores and using laws like affirmative action to give them more of an opportunity to get into school. We should not use, as the link I'm about to respond to puts it, "Race, ethnicity, religion and sex ... in a holistic approach to consider what candidates would be a good fit for the school". Entry should be determined based upon merit and merit alone.

    And I've never claimed culture problems aren't part of the issue. Of course they are. But to ignore genetic issues is simply willful ignorance in the name of political correctness.
     
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    I'd like to see your source on all of those statistics. Whites make up the majority of those groups because they make up 60-65% of the total population. However, they're not grossly overrepresented in violent crime except in the category of child molestation.

    In literally every category you mentioned (except domestic terror attacks I'm not sure of... but I AM sure that the amount of deaths caused by those types of attacks is so low as to be insignificant in the aggregate) blacks are grossly disproportionate in their representation.
     
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    Key 1: Of course affirmative action doesn't just help black people. It helps everybody EXCEPT straight, white, Christian males. Therefore not only is affirmative action racist, but it's also sexist and discriminates based upon sexual orientation and religion.

    Key 2: Complete and utter nonsense. White women make up approximately 30-33% of our total population while making up approximately 40% of the total beneficiaries of affirmative action. So while they're slightly overrepresented they're not grossly overrepresented. Whereas blacks make up 12% of our total population and yet they make up close to 35% of the beneficiaries of affirmative action. Making them disproportionately represented by a factor of almost 3x.

    Moreover, I'd like to point out the absurd irony of the statement they make in Key 2 after what they said in Key 1. In Key 1 they assert that affirmative action isn't based upon race. Then in Key 2 they state "Race, ethnicity, religion and sex are used in a holistic approach to consider what candidates would be a good fit for the school. " Exactly what the heck do they think that means?

    Key 3: See Key 1. Not only is affirmative action racist, it's also sexist. Both of which are unconstitutional.

    Key 4: Another blatant lie. https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/pdf/coe_cpb.pdf Blacks are NOT underrepresented in college. Blacks are GROSSLY overrepresented. In 2016 whites made up 41% of the total accepted to college, while making up more than 60% of the total population. Blacks made up 36% of the total accepted to college, while making up only 12% of the total population.

    So given that blacks are overrepresented THREE TIMES the rate they should be in college and whites are Underrepresented ... don't you think we should be giving the WHITE kids an advantage and not the black ones? Or how about a better idea. We just stop giving anyone an advantage and let them get in on their merit and see where the statistics shake out then.
     
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    Thanks for making my point. Other people benefit from affirmative action, not just African Americans. Oh by the way, who are most of these white women marrying? Now you see how white males benefit.
     
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    lol So I have to get married to benefit from that program for the SOLE reason that I have white skin while EVERY other race can benefit directly from it without getting married. And you don't think that's racist and discriminatory?
     
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    If what you believe is true , Again I ask you, who writes the majority of these laws that discriminate against white males? Your answer may be right in the mirror
     
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    That’s where the prejudice is ..you are making an assumption that blacks and women who are given extra attention for diversity somehow aren’t deserving. Did you think the white males who didn’t have to compete with more than half the population and many who were much more qualified than they were, were not deserving? I’d like to give the example of my daughter. She took the SAT in her junior year and because I was able to afford a tutor her score went up 150 points next time she took it. Does that mean she’s smarter? Sometimes there are a lot of other things to take into consideration and one is diversity and what it can bring to a university
     
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    But the difference is whites still get hired.In the past women and blacks never got hired in many fields
     
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    Who Are these lazy people that you are talking about?trouble with righties is that they want to kiss the asses of billionaires and give them more money at their own expense then rather see poor people who work at minimum wage get help. What they basically do To hide their lack of compassion is label poor people as lazy
     
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