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What type of bike did you use to tour with?

 

You forgot to tell them that a tattoo on the forehead is required to vote..

 

You are both humanoids...

 

Nobody's perfect.

 

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Welcome and I should perhaps ask this question to you and others in a new thread but what the 'hell' how old was you when you first rejected the religion viewpoint of life and knew that you was an atheist?

My family was so so religion on my father side and not at all on my mother side but they was not openly atheists.

My mother gave me a love of reading and one of the books I picked up was the family King Jame bible at roughly ten or eleven years of age.

Love the words of the creation story but it went all downhill afterward to the point I could not accept that adults was serous about this nonsense.

As I had said at what age did you become an atheist?

 

You actually asked two different questions. I rejected religion around the time I was 16, maybe a little earlier and became an atheist when I was 20.

I think it's an important distinction. Most credible surveys find that only 20% of Americans regularly attend church. That means that contrary to popular opinion, the vast majority of people in this country reject religion, but only a very small percentage are atheists.

I think that atheism (or rather a non-belief in an afterlife) has done a lot of good in my life. It really has inspired me to travel and see the world. I find myself often thinking "oh ****, I'm going to die one day, can't die without seeing China! I better buy me a ticket today!"

 

As far as you know.

 

Believe it or not, I biked across Spain by myself on a tandem road bike. I met some climbers there who were on a tandem bike tour. One of them broke their leg bike touring, and they needed to get their bike to Barcelona, which was where I was also flying out of, so I biked it up there for them. It was great fun.

 

Let see first being an atheist to me is rejecting the supernatural view of the universe where the known laws of the universe can be bypass at the whim of some super being.

Going to church or not going to church is not the same subject as the churches are more then religion centers but also cultures centers of communities that whether a church goer is deeply religion or is just paying lip server to enjoy the benefits.

Given the history of people being kill and torture for not paying religion lip services I see no moral problem in not being honest in being a member of a religion community.

 

There are plenty of people who reject religion but believe in the supernatural of some kind or another. The 4 years I spent non-religious but not an atheist I'd say I was something along the lines of a Christian deist and then just a deist. Although as an 18 year old I was mostly too dumb to really know that at the time.

I guess when I think about the term rejecting religion, its the thought that religion is so unimportant in your life, that you don't participate in anyway. That seems to describe the vast majority of Americans.

 

Hamilton did not pursue any one faith an was not all that religion in any sense of the word until he was lying on his death bed due to being shot by Burr.

Then he did ask his friends to find someone who would grant him the last rites.

At first all the local religion leaders rejected doing so until Hamilton powerful friends placed enough pressure for him to be given the last rites.

 

You never really know whats going on in a brain when you are on your death bed. He could be hedging his bet, and hoping that God is real and somehow as petty as some people think, or he could be in a delirious state that is over riding his normal sense of reason.

I find it baffling that religious people sometimes put such value on someone's last moments, which is literally the moments that your brain is working the least well. Lets say Hamilton did become religious in his last moments when his brain, plagued by fever and barely able to think. Its sort of a good metaphor for religious belief overall.

 

Before I gotz old I used to live on my bikes...I am glad you had a great time the memories alone are worth it..

 

I plan on being shot by my lover's husband..

 

The shapeshifters are usually all on the reservations...

 

The manliest way to die.

 

Plus I am pretty slow at this stage..

 

Greetings and welcome.

 

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How about now?




Now?

 

Just whisper to me, who is the insufferable English curmudgeon and who are the two radical communists? They sound fun.

 

I AM MOST FUN!

 

Welcome Cap. As a 'God thumpin', conservative, constitutionalist... etc. etc. I anticipate a spirited debate going forward, hopefully not ending in antipathetic discourse, (watch out for the mods, lol) ... Good luck & welcome Captain A ... S

 

I'm also fairly conservative in many ways and a big fan of the US constitution. I even have a fair amount of respect for the philosophies of Jesus (whether or not modern Christians do is another story) and major problems with Islam.

Not all Atheists are left wing. Over at Atheist forums most of the conservative atheists were in the proverbial closet about it. Theyve all left by now. They pretty much purged all the Theists and conservatives by pure nastiness and turned the forum into a safe space for liberals.

I feel much more free to be myself on this forum, given the wide variety of views here.

I look forward to discussions with you.

 

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