Are some US and British media outlets biased on Israel & Paelstine?

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Are some US and British media outlets biased on Israel & Paelstine?

  1. Yes, some US and British media outlets are biased in favour of Israel.

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  2. Yes, some US and British media outlets are biased in favour of Palestine.

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  3. I have no reason to believe that some US and British media outlets are biased on Israel & Paelstine.

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  4. Yes, some US and British media outlets are biased in either direction.

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    @Grau, you see the above?
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thank you but I don't see MSM as the "enemy of the people" in the same sense as Trump sees the "press", (especially CNN) as the enemy of the people.

    US MSM has played a monumental roll in deceiving millions of unthinking Americans into believing Israel is is some sort of beneficial ally when, in fact, it is American government support of any Israeli war crime, act of aggression & human rights violation that is the root of America's unnecessary & costly conflicts with the Islamic world.

    I believe that America's MSM does the American public a tremendous disservice by grossly under-reporting Israeli lobby influence and Israeli betrayals of America.

    For example:
    EXCERPT "A recent report by Newsweek magazine that Israel has spied on the United States at “an alarming level” and has done so “more than any other ally does” raises a very serious issue concerning how much Israel has betrayed America, which is something that the American mainstream media have time and again refused to debate in public."CONTINUED(1)

    Briefly put, I feel that characterizing the "press" as the "enemy of the people" is a bit hyperbolic.





    (1) How Israel Has Betrayed America
    https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2014/06/06/how-israel-has-betrayed-america/
     
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    Of course there is no neutral media outlet on the planet that I know of. They all have humans writing for them and all humans have biases. The trick is finding the ones with the fewest or looking at both sides and realizing that the truth is almost always some where in the middle.
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Even though you think that it deliberately deceives the people?
     
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    The American media automatically assumes the Palestians are victims and the Israelis are Nazis, even though every conflict begins with Palestinian rockets into Israel.

    And Netanyahu is essentially Genghis Kahn.
     
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    "The Press" includes a lot of different individuals and different organizations. I think that generalizing about all journalists and all news services as "the enemy" is, as I said, hyperbolic.
    I think that that there are specific Islamophobic, war mongering pundits & news services whose intent is contrary to the best interests of the American people but I think that characterizing them as the "enemy of the people" is too strong.
     
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    If you are really seeking knowledge, and I suspect you are not, then you should check out a 4 part series called "The Lobby" that can be viewed on You Tube. At least it could be several months ago.

    By their own words, it shows Israeli agents working to manipulate the British government in favor of Israel. Their actions go way beyond the "meddling" we accused the Russians of doing.

    If you seek knowledge, you should check that out.
     
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    Are you sure that it's every conflict?
     
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    The media follow the elite; investigative journalism is going the way of the dodo. The elite have been twisted by pressure group influence. There is a reason that the Israeli lobby is one of the most active in British and US politics...
     
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    And that reason is...?
     
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    Why do you suspect that I am not "seeking knowledge?"
     
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    Does Trump say "all journalists and all news services" are "the enemy?"

    "Specific?" You said "MSM." This implies, the MSM IN GENERAL.
     
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    Re:
    I don't know but I think that Trump is most vexed at CNN.


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    What, specifically would you like to know in addition to what I already said.
    No, I do not think that the press is the enemy of the people but MSM does a tremendous disservice to America by its Islamophobic nature and selective war mongering.
     
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    I don't see any evidence of your seeking knowledge in the posts you make here. My bet is you have not bothered to view any parts of "The Lobby."
     
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    The lobby?
     
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    And deceiving the American people?
     
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    Yes.

    If you remember just before the invasion of Iraq, the vast majority of Americans were easily whipped into a pro War frenzy by MSM's AIPAC pundits but only a tiny fraction of Americans could even find Iraq on a map or were aware of the civilian casualties & misery.
     
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    No matter how much of this you have time to watch you'll be extremely surprised at the degree to which numerous wealthy, powerful & influential Israeli lobby & PR groups train paid propagandists & Zionist Quislings to deceive Americans on a large scale, spy on Americans & extract blood & money from poorly informed & gullible Americans.

    Yes, I know it's long but it's well worth the time to watch as much as you can.

    "The Lobby - USA, episode 1"
     
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    In capital letters. It is a 4 part series by Al Jazeera, undercover work with video and audio, in England, perfectly exposing the machinations of the Israeli Lobby in manipulating the British political system.

    A few months ago it was on You Tube. It was so embarrassing to Israel that it might have been taken down by now.
     
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    What do you suppose the reaction would be to Trump, if instead of calling outlets that are guilty of fake news, "the enemy of the people", he had said that, "the media deceive the American people?"
     
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    @chris155au - here are excerpts from a speech by a former AP journalist about media bias against Israel.

    http://fathomjournal.org/the-ideological-roots-of-media-bias-against-israel/
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    @Grau, see above post from Pisa.
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Since it is more specific, I think it would have been better received by people who consider Trump too extreme in his views.
     
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    Just a cursory study of Matti Friedman who writes for the pro Israel NY Times and the pro Israel source, "Fathom", reveals that both have an egregious & deceptive pro Israel bias.

    Of course they're going to howl about an "anti Israel bias" when anything unflattering is reported about Israeli ethnic cleansing, illegal Settlements & regional aggression because there's no way to put a positive spin on Israeli government criminality.

    The degree to which US based Israeli agents like Matti Friedman are able to achieve "Privileged Pundit" status & dominate US MSM is precisely why you should look at "The Lobby" and the manifold ways in which Israeli agents influence US MSM.


    Matti Friedman
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matti_Friedman
    EXCERPT "AP issued a statement, saying that Friedman's "... arguments have been filled with distortions, half-truths and inaccuracies, both about the recent Gaza war and more distant events. His suggestion of AP bias against Israel is false"CONTINUED
     
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    Why do you suppose that the bureau chief order both reporters to ignore the Olmert offer?
     

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