Mueller-Dämmerung

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  1. Striped Horse

    Striped Horse Well-Known Member

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    I wonder what members here think of the below article and the - apparently - imminent Mueller report that is expected to reveal that there has never been any factual evidence of Trump being a puppet of Russia or Putin?

    For me it has been evident from day one that the entirety of Russiagate was a meme created by Hilary's team to spare her embarrassment as her bungling loss due to her arrogance.

    But others will disagree, obviously. And yet if the below article is proved correct, then there never has been any meaningful evidence behind Russiagate.

    https://consentfactory.org/2019/03/...zDZT7iGiATKmaQKckvrRnaOoZEyyyO9menHd-0J-L3TJg
     
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  2. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

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    Since I have to contradict you unfortunately ... because too many people from Trump immediate environment at least questionable relations with Russia have now been proven ...

    No, I'm not defending Clinton here ... certainly not ... but the whole thing stinks a lot. But honestly? I do not really care about it.
    The Americans were so stupid to leave only the choice between Plague (Clinton) or Cholera (Trump) as the next president ... Cholera won and what huge mess cholera did to US and the world within 2 years, everyone knows. .. except perhaps totally dumbfounded devotees of Trump followers who are totally imun against facts.
     
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  3. James Knapp

    James Knapp Well-Known Member

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    We agree on a lot Striped Horse. Where are you from in the UK out of interest?

    Regarding your post, I completely agree and I think we are going to see Trump coming out swinging. It's obvious to anyone with a brain that the whole investigation was a sham from the start, 3 years in and not one shred of evidence to link Trump and Russia. Russian Troll Farms undoubtedly are playing a part in sowing worldwide discourse but this is a universal problem and not a Republican problem, in fact there is more evidence between the DNC and foreign governments with regards to collusion. Russia tried to affect the Brexit vote and elections all across Europe, whether they were successful or to what extent is anyone's guess.
     
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  4. JakeStarkey

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    This, "imminent Mueller report that is expected to reveal that there has never been any factual evidence of Trump being a puppet of Russia or Putin?", is an incorrect and inaccurate statement.

    Mature people wait for the statement without freaking out.
     
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  5. Sahba*

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    U can be sure that if there were no 'counter punch', the Mueller investigation would end up looking quite a bit different, lol... (funny how accountability works)
     
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  6. James Knapp

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    Mature people? Dude, it's been 3 years and nothing. Why would the DNC or FBI allow Trump to continue being President if they had any and I mean even the slightest evidence of wrongdoing? It was all a lie to cover over the humiliating loss to a buffoon. He won, and he will win again because the DNC do not have anything positive to say.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    One would think that if they have been proven there would be indictments for such, yet nothing. Methinks you listen too much to liberal outlets.
     
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    As usual democrats have over reached and this whole Russian collusion scam is about to blow up in their face. The TDS crowd will curl up in little balls and pout while trump supporters and trump will march over their shattered bodies and spirits to more victories for America.
     
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  9. JakeStarkey

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    Mature people know there have been indictments, pleadings out, convictions, jail time, etc., and this will continue.

    The Identitarian Trump Wing have nothing to boast about it.
     
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    I think that there were never more than a few people who believed in the hoax. It was only ever a club to beat Trump with. They have plenty more fake news clubs. They'll just spend more time on calling him a racist white-supremacist

    Then, there are some who will continue to push the hoax. It was, after all, never about the truth. It's about percentages. If they can mislead even a few percent, it's a win for them.

    Last, there are the true believers. Fifty years from now, they will be posting YouTube videos that claim to absolutely prove the collusion.
     
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    Great article, but I don't think Trump is capable of beating the snot out of anybody, even with the Mueller report revealing the fraud. Why? Because Donald has become very much a bag of hot air himself. He is the irrational and belligerent paper dragon.

    Only those deepest in denial have really believed that Putin stole Hillary's election or that Donald is a Russian agent. An international businessman, fraud though he may be, would be expected to at least to attempt to do business in Russia.
     
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    Tell that to Assad & then ask the people of Syria what they think about their hero... President Trump.
     
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    Mature people also understand that none of those indictments, pleadings, etc were indicative of illegal activity by the President. I suppose you can understand how that makes you look....
     
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    Sorry ... there were demonstrable "strange" connections and even if nothing is known about the content of the meetings (as yet), these meetings are facts and have nothing to do with liberal / lefty!

    Conversely, I could accuse you of giving Trump a wildcard for innocence ...
    And the funny thing is ... if all this was vice versa for Obama with the "strange" meetings, then you would foam with rage and scream for impeachment!
     
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    Mandelus hits the nail on the head.
     
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    :roflol:

    Preemptive kneejerk denialism duly noted for the record!

    There is already evidence in the law courts of your beloved BLOTUS's criminal activities WRT conspiring to violate campaign finance laws.

    Pretending that this is not "factual evidence" is just setting the extremist rightwing BLOTUS supporters up for a nasty shock.
     
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    It's your understanding of the investigation that is a sham. Mueller wasn't appointed to investigate just Trump and his campaign's possible Russian collusion. He was appointed to investigate Russian interference in our politics, and he has found plenty in that regard. The investigation is not about Trump and never was, unless he happens to be guilty of something within its scope.

    But Trump is obviously eager to use anything he can to try and bolster his own sinking popularity, as are you, so of course he, and you, will continue to talk utter crap about Mueller and his investigation.
     
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    Wrong!

    The Cohen indictment and guilty plea DIRECTLY involves your beloved BLOTUS in a conspiracy to ILLEGALLY commit Campaign Finance violations of the Law of the Land.
     
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    Hmm... you seem unwilling to pay attention. Can't help it if you don't keep up...
     
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    Puerile ad hom projection duly noted and ignored for derogatory reasons.
     
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    Yup, and that among other things will be handled by the SDNY. Mueller is not even the greatest of BLOTUS's concerns, but you would think otherwise the way he carries on publicly.
     
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    The rw identitarian ad homs are increasing because they cannot escape the truth about Trump and his campaign.
     
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    I know, you won't ever admit that you're wrong.. Which again, here, you are. Pouting isn't attractive though.
     
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    That 'wildcard' is called innocent until proven guilty. The idea that conspiracy theories are taken as fact is astounding.
     
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    Look.... over there..... is that .....hope?? It is hard to watch the dreams of others get shattered.... But I shall endure...:roflol:
     

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