Looking for honest answers from Trump supporters..........

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ..........though I must admit I'm a bit afraid to ask.

    If you knew that 1. Don was in negotiations with Putin (a murdering despot who is our enemy) for a Trump Tower Moscow during the campaign and did not expressly make it known to the public, 2. was being investigated by the FBI due to numerous contacts between members of the campaign and Russians beginning in the spring of 2016, contacts that were not disclosed to the authorities by him as they should have been (one of which he tried to cover up by issuing a dishonest press release), 3. paid off two women with whom he had extra-marital affairs to conceal that fact from the American public before the election (for which M. Cohen has plead guilty to violating campaign finance law).........................

    Would you really still have voted for him?

    Would you have voted for any other candidate who did the same things?

    Do you think he still would have won the election if the public knew about all three things?
     
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    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    We'll see in the next election. I don't think core Trump FanBoys care about anything other than the silver in their pocket.

    Had Obama hid the fact that he had paid off porn stars - do you think he would have been elected?

    I didn't vote for Bill Clinton because of his sleazy past.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course I would because none of that is illegal.

    I'm not voting for my spiritual leader, I'm voting for someone to run the nation.

    He could be a Satanist for all I care as long as he gets the job done that I want.
     
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    Pants Well-Known Member

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    Just so I understand...a Christian would vote for a worshiper of Satan? Knowing that Satan is all about lies and deception and evil...you would vote for someone who practiced and worshiped those things?
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We Christians don't do everything based on God you know.

    When I go to get my car fixed I don't check to see if the mechanic is a Christian first, I take it to the shop and let them fix it.

    If I root for a football team they don't have to have all Christians on their team for me to do it.

    And remember what I said, I would vote for him if he does what I want so practicing Satanism while in office probably wouldn't qualify.
     
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    I would have voted for Putin to be the president over Hillary Clinton. That answer your question?
     
  7. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But.......you recognize just how unprecedented that position is, right? That no amount of unethical or immoral behavior matters to you as long as it isn't illegal. Can you see yourself feeling that way about anyone else?
    Do you acknowledge that a large part of the legal community believes Don is, right now, an unindicted co-conspirator for the crime of breaking campaign finance law?
     
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  8. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, it does. It's why the majority of us are so concerned about the fanatical, misinformed minority.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We were given two bad choices. Some of us voted for a third party and some voted for the lesser of two evils.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, liberals believe that, just like they believed he was guilty of confusion and tomorrow you will believe the next thing on your list.

    And who is the judge of what is moral outside of religion?

    You, me? I am sure that everyone is immoral in some way or another but if you are going to base your voting habits on that then you should probably never vote.

    So yes, as long as nothing is illegal I only care about the job performed and the results gained, the rest is irrelevant.

    I wouldn't have cared that Bill Clinton stay in office either for what he did.

    Seriously, if you through life only interacting with people you think are "moral" you are going to have a very rough time. In the end I don't think you or anyone else actually cares, you folks just hate Trump so have all of a sudden have become focused on morality because you have nothing left at this point.
     
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    I can't answer as I did not vote for anyone for president in 2016. But legally speaking Vladimir Putin is not an enemy of the United States. And Bill Clinton established that personal sexual matters are not relevant to the role of president.
     
  12. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why do you think Don went to such lengths to hide his immoral behavior from the public? Don't you feel a bit deceived that he didn't just come out and say, "I was having sex with a porn star while I was married to my wife."
     
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  13. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But...........Putin is absolutely our enemy as it is his aim to destabilize Western democracies.
    As for Clinton, you do remember the Repubs tried to impeach him after a 4 year investigation that found no wrongdoing pertaining to the reason the investigation was started, right?
     
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    To get elected.

    Negative press is still negative press and never good for a campaign.

    That would be campaigning 101.

    Now if he killed the hookers and buried them in his backyard to keep them quiet then yes, that would a bit too much.

    It's just funny, Edwards got caught breaking the law and paying off some girl he slept with and the left came to his defense.

    Do we even need to bring up Kennedy and the river?

    They made him a superstar so spare me your moral platitude.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Where is that his aim?

    I have never heard him talk about that, I only hear you guys spouting it off.

    What actually seems to be happening is that he wants friendly relationships with western democracies.

    This is an example of you folks professing a lie so often that you begin to believe it. Where was all this fear when Obama was meeting with him?

    Never heard about it once from you guys. He certainly wasn't the enemy then. Hell, Hillary was making deals with our "enemy" and that was all fine.
     
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    Independent Christian conservative, raised Pentecostal, and I will not overlook Trump’s unethical behaviour.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are supposed to help people with unethical behavior, not force them into unemployment.

    How is that Christian?
     
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    pol meister Well-Known Member

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    It's your own TDS that you should be concerned about. It's what's driving you on the left into such a fanatical, misinformed, and delusional state of paranoia.
     
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    So? No doubt Putin is an enemy of the United States. But officially and legally he is not. We still have billions of business interests with the Russians. We have military cooperation. We have diplomatic relations. They still launch our astronauts to the ISS. By any objective and legal standard Russia is NOT an enemy of the United States.

    If Putin and Russia ARE enemies of the United States, why aren't we gutting domestic spending to radically increase the size of our military? Wouldn't that be the proper response if one of the largest nations on Earth is our enemy?

    Who cares what the Republicans tried to do? They failed. The Democrats won regarding impeachment. So the point about sexual matters relevance to the presidency has been established.
     
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    Yes. None of those things effect his ability to MAGA.

    A tower in Moscow is what Trump's company does to make money. Its no different than a tower anywhere else. I would answer the same if it was in Beijing or Toronto or Ulaanbaatar.

    The FBI is/was headed by establishment/globalist stay-behind networks seeking to obstruct the anti-establishment/anti-globalist president. Their 'investigations' (read: witch hunts) are meaningless insofar as any indication of actual corruption unless/until they actually prove something on Trump. They havn't.

    I don't care who JFK slept with. I don't care who Clinton slept with. I don't care who Trump sleeps with.
     
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    Given that the Trump tower thing came out before the election and didn't happen. That the so called contacts where they existed at all were largely set ups and fiction no It wouldn't have change my vote especially given that the investigation was based on the patently phony Steele Dossier and crap from more than a decade back that no one including, Mueller thought was illegal then. It wouldn't have done anything more than convince me that voting for Trump was the correct option.
     
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  22. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Exactly. I suppose you can defend your vote for Don retrospectively by claiming nothing he did bothers you but you'll have to agree he intentionally deceived the public. On multiple fronts.
     
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    I would say fanatical and misinformed was exactly the reason HC and Trump were even nominated in the first place.
     
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  24. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So........you say "No doubt Putin is an enemy of the United States" and then you go on to say he isn't. I get the feeling you are twisting yourself in knots so you don't have to admit a candidate for prez who was not public about his efforts to build a tower in Moscow, negotiating the deal with Putin, is.......to be kind.......problematic.
     
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    Right?

    Is the OP trying to figure out why Trump voters didn't vote for Clinton?:nerd:
     

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