Trump Serious About Venezuela - Re-Instates Monroe Doctrine

A lot fewer than their own government.

 

Bernie is a reformed communist

As for venezeula I was speaking of rodent #1 not the bus driver who succeeded him

 

He is one of many "democratic socialists" who have morphed from calling for collectivizing many industries within a democratic system--an attempt to differentiate themselves from the Marxist-Leninists who took over countries like China and the Soviet Union--to calling for heavy government regulation, high taxes, and a lot of government programs. They have backed away from collectivizing production because it has even been abandoned by most communists as unworkable.

They still call themselves socislists when they've abandoned the very basis of socialism.

 

I think the reason so ialusts have adopted the fascist economic model is that marxsts are lousy businessmen

When they try to own and operate the producton everyone starves and have no shoes to wear

Better to let the hated capitalists produce stuff and then tax the **** out of them

 

Perhaps as many as our sanctions killed in Iraq?

We are major dealers in death, as we do it for the good of their people. ha ha

Latin america has always seemed to have a weakness, cultural, that can be exploited by the US, in the interest of our elites who love exploiting their resources. When the drop in oil prices hurt venezuela's income used for socialism, we threw sanctions on them, to insure they bled out.

Looks like you have two groups of people in that nation, the light skinned people with wealth, and the dark skinned poor, who outnumber the light skinned folks. When the majority votes in rulers who say they will help feed the poor darker skinned, it doesn't take long for the US to side with the light skinned blued eyed ancestors of the ruling class, and over turn the apple cart.

I think if the US would stop interfering, these nations might eventually solve their age old problems, in some manner. But our foreign policy will not allow that. Foreign policy has always tended to favor our elites and their business interests and stocks. And so our national interests dove tail with the self interests of a small group of our elites, big corporations and big banking.

Good or bad, overall, that is just the reality.

 

If Washington believes, as it's propaganda networks profess, that it's the system in Venezuela that's keeping the people in poverty, then why sanction them since they wouldn't be needed now would they?

As for Guaido, a Spanish reporter went to Venezuela and said he is the most hated man there, and is mocked by everyone. But it doesn't matter, after all our journalists are 'gods' as is our government and know what's best for Venezuela. All they'd have to do is censor some here and spin a bit there, and Venezuela will become another Ukrainian paradise. (I say that mockingly).

 

Please, fascists don't collectivize production, socialists do. Learn a little history.

 

I said contemporary socialists have given up on state ownership and management

They are often not very good at it

But they are still socialists

 

Based on what? Please present evidence

 

Indeed! Its a shame people don't learn. Iraq, given the death toll, should have been a wake up call. However, we see the same zombie attitudes with Venezuela as they swallow the government narrative without thought.

 

You are welcome to your warped opinion but , I am rather fond of Taco's and Salsa dancing - and Latin Music as well ...

 

I love Latin America. Food, music, culture, women, the friendliness of everyone. They are some of the happiest countries on earth. Don't judge without goinf there.

 

I am 80.

How many times, count it up, has the USA conquered Venezuela? Be careful since when i was in school South America was one of my favorite continents to study. Don't know why but Simon Bolivar interested me more than George Washington did.

 

Better get there quick since the Mobsters Maduro and Chavez have about finished that country off.

 

Cheney so far is this nations finest vice presidents, bar none. Best ever we had.

 

Interesting, you think conquest is the only way to interfere with another country.

 

Do I? If I happen to say what you said, get back to me later and then we can talk.

 

Oh, if you don’t believe conquest is the only way a country can interfere with another then what was your point behind asking me to state how many times the US has conquered Venezuela?

 

What Trump is doing to Venezuela has nothing to do with the "Monroe doctrine". Monroe, like his predecessors, was an avowed non-interventionist. His position on South America was that European interference there would be viewed as unfriendly to the US. That's it. He never said or implied that the US had any right to interfere in South America. Indeed, he said the opposite.

 

Ohhhh I see. I was making the point that this country never conquered Venezuela. Thanks for asking.

 

I don't know about nation's finest, but Cheney 'twas definitely the most powerful, Real-Commander-In-Chief we've ever had.

 

I was making the point that we have repeatedly violated Venezuela's sovereignty and destabilized them. You don't have to conquer a country to do that.

 

Cheney should be in prison cell with GWB for he dies.

 

Yeah, Russia has quickly pointed out these inconsistencies. Asking when we will get out of Syria when we said we wanted them out of Venezuela and claiming they are a Western Hemispheric power that also can enforce the Monroe Doctrine due to it's possession of Siberia. More likely they are trying to recover their investments.

LATE-STAGE SOCIALISM: Journalist Describes An ‘Almost Unimaginable’ Crisis In Venezuela.“The U.N. estimates that it’s upwards of 3 million people who have left out of 30 million people, 10 percent of the population that has gone. If walk around the streets of Caracas or Maracaibo, there are areas which are completely empty. You walk down streets and you see that there’s two or three people in one house, and then another house is gone, or another house has got a family of what looked like squatters, because they’ve just moved into the place.”

What do you think US policy should be here?

 

Annex.