'It's okay to be white': Police investigate racially charged signs found near Bates College

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  1. JakeStarkey

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    No commies are teaching our children.

    "Us" are the American people who are as a majority opposed to Benedict Donald and elected a Democratic House.

    Speech you don't like is still protected by the 1st Amendment.

    There is no civil war, only a cultural insurgency from the far far right that has failed from the beginning.
     
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    Just to be clear here, are you saying Jews throughout recorded history were inferior to every group that oppressed them? That every kidnapping victim is inferior to the kidnapper? Every convienence store clerk inferior to the gunman who holds him up? Etc.

    I see. If a minority can run for President, then there's obviously no systemic racism anymore.
     
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    No group, including the Jews, are inferior by genetics or nature, SteveN. To argue so shows a bigotry that is hard to remove except by the passing of generations.

    Please do not follow that argument.
     
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    It seemed like it was an opinion.
    But if you have evidence black females are insecure, lets see the proof.

    BTW - you have an option to change channels if tv shows or ads upset you.
     
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    What exactly did the college do?
     
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    They freaked out over a flyer that threatened no one
     
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    I see, I reread the OP, they are cooperating with the police. My bad.

    And what from the OP says the signs didn't threaten anyone?
    I understand signs don't, but how about the person/group who put them there. Who did it? You seem to know, for you know there is no threat.

    Are you with the police dept? Or has the name(s) been released?
     
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  8. Steve N

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    What I’m saying is it’s highly probable that a victim of any kind was inferior to the point of being unable to stop being a victim. If I went outside and a gang of 20 ten years olds attacked me and overwhelmed me, then in that instance they were superior. Same thing with weapons; I have a bow and arrow, you have a sniper rifle, more than likely you’d be superior to me. You could apply this superiority concept to just about anything.
     
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    History is full of events where an inferior group got beat up by a superior group. At Pearl Harbor the Japanese managed to have superiority over what we had there, but eventually we had superiority over them.
     
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    It's not a superior/inferior question. If you have an AK and I have a knife, and your gun jams, and I stab you in the eye, I wasn't superior, I was just lucky. People that are subjugated by others aren't inferior. You can say they're less powerful, but even that's not always the case. Powerful people have been ambushed by less powerful people countless times. Powerful empires have had their asses handed to them by less powerful ones.
     
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    You are shifting what is "superior" from racial/ethnic/origin to technology and training.

    I agree that the Japanese were "superior" at Pearl Harbor until Coral Sea/Midway and generally compatible through the end of the Solomons Campaign. That had to do with training, espirit de corp, until American training and technology and industrial capacity swamped the enemy.

    You and I are simply no more 'superior' to a Gautemalan peasant than they are to us.
     
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    What if your IQ is significantly higher and you're substantially more athletic? Are you just virtue signalling, or are you referring to the idea that 'we're all created equally under God'?
     
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    Do not switch what I wrote on racial/ethnic/origin to one of education or IQ. You are moving from group to individual.

    The fallacy which has been introduced is the false equivalency of kind and degree.

    American law gives us equality under law. The alien is equally subject and entitled to the protection of American law when in its jurisdiction.
     
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    There’s no doubt that luck, chance and other factor come into play, but the best prepared group would be conditioned or intelligent enough to at least try to overcome them. More often than not, the cream rises to the top.
     
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    This is what you originally said, which led to this bizarre derail:
    Can you unpack this? I don't know what you're claiming, but the implications are obvious.
     
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    That doesn't answer the question.
     
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    Yes, ModCon, more than competently my reply above answers the question.

    That it bothers you is another matter.
     
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    You posted an illogical platitude. It should be a pretty simple matter to answer directly.
     
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    Which is a false and incomplete at best. A surprise attack or raid does not quantify anyone or any military as superior. Especially considering what followed in June of 1942 or even early in April.
     
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    I posted the truth and pointed out your fallacy.
     
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    Thanks to the Republican party that made sure those laws were passed, despite the fact that Democrats filibustered and tried as hard as they could to prevent this.

    You always forget that part. :)
     
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    Which is true at the last and compatible with the facts. Of course the Japanese success at PH was not one of luck but one of superior planning and military application. By June 1942, the Americans were improving in training, application, and equipment.

    Neither side was inherently superior because of genetics/race/origin. Sorry for the far right, but there it is.
     
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    The 14th Amendment, SCOTUS rulings, and the Democratic Party forcing the GOP to comply in 1964 and 1965 are why those laws work today.

    Every southern GOP Senator and Congressman voted against the CRA in 1964.

    The Democratic Senators and Congressmen from the North and the West had higher %s in voting for the CRA than northern and western Republicans.

    That is the truth and what is taught in HS and college. Tough.
     
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    No...

    You said - You and I are simply no more 'superior' to a Gautemalan peasant than they are to us.

    I said - What if your IQ is significantly higher and you're substantially more athletic? Are you just virtue signalling, or are you referring to the idea that 'we're all created equally under God'?

    Your reply - Do not switch what I wrote on racial/ethnic/origin to one of education or IQ. You are moving from group to individual.

    The fallacy which has been introduced is the false equivalency of kind and degree.

    American law gives us equality under law. The alien is equally subject and entitled to the protection of American law when in its jurisdiction.
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    That doesn't answer the question. Why can't you answer directly?
     
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    You are persisting in your fallacy of false equivalency of degree and kind.

    That is a clear, concise, and competent rebuttal to your argument.
     
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