Immigration System at Breaking Point

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  1. Bluesguy

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    Which automobile plants were shut down as a direct result of steel tariffs?
     
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    After Losing $1 Billion to Tariffs, General Motors Announces 14,000 Layoffs
    Trump's rally promises won't happen because of Trump's trade policies


    Still, the added cost imposed by the tariffs is surely a factor. As Scott Lincicome, a trade attorney and senior fellow at the Cato Institute, pointed out on Twitter, that $1 billion could have paid for a years' salary for 24,000 assembly line workers (who make an average salary of $41,000).

    If nothing else, losing $1 billion to higher import taxes may have forced GM to take more dramatic steps more quickly than otherwise would have.

    https://reason.com/blog/2018/11/26/after-losing-1-billion-to-tariffs-genera
     
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    When did illegal alien become a race? You folks are too much...
     
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    List of automobiles manufactured in the United States

    1 Ford Motor Company [1]
    2 General Motors Company [2]
    3 Fiat Chrysler Automobiles [3]
    4 Honda Motor Company [4]
    5 Toyota Motor Corporation [5]
    6 Nissan Motor Company [6]
    7 Subaru Corporation [7]
    8 Volkswagen Group [8]
    9 Tesla, Inc. [9]
    10 Hyundai Motor Company [10]
    11 Kia Motor Corporation [11]
    12 BMW Group [12]
    13 Daimler AG [13]
    14 Volvo Cars [14]

    Funny how it only affected GM.
     
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    There is no express immigration clause or wall building power delegated to Congress.

    Ellis Island should be upgraded to solve our refugee dilemma in a more expedient manner.

    Simplifying entry into the Union should not be a burden; we have a welfare clause General and a Commerce Clause specifically, in our Constitution as powers available to solve this exigency.

    There is no common defense concern simply Because, the General powers can resolve it generally and we subscribe to Capitalism, commercially.
     
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  6. Bluesguy

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    ROFL GM's problems are not steel GM's problems are it's management and and producing products that don't sell. They are closing product lines that don't sell. They didn't even apply for import tariff exemptions.

    This Chart Explains GM's Woes Better Than Blaming Trump

    There's more to General Motors' problems than steel tariffs.

    While it is convenient for some to blame President Donald Trump for the recent mass layoff announcement at my former employer, there are other perhaps more important things to consider....

    Monday automaker GM announced it would eliminate 14,000 jobs and cease production of some car models amid a slowdown in sales of cars.


    Two crucial factors are getting lost in all the screeching about how Trump's steel tariffs backfired.

    Another Subprime Victim

    Changing tastes

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/simonc...e-for-gms-woes-trump-or-the-fed/#640c2cca4f1d


    GM has been behind the 8 ball and eaten up with the cost of their labor for decades. All the other companies are competing with the changes in the steel markets.



    So back to the discussion about immigration and the system being at the breaking point.
     
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    Who are the ones supporting and caring more for the well being of illegal immigrants over their own countrymen?

    Who are the ones enabling and welcoming more illegal immigration?

    Who are the ones putting illegal immigrants into government positions?

    Who are the ones wanting illegals to vote?

    Who are the ones that are in now way what so ever telling illegals to stop flooding the country?

    Get it right, democrats are the ones who WANT a crisis, and obviously want more illegal immigration .
     
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    No it is not. Trump wants to secure the border and the open borders crowd is blocking. It is the fault of congress.

    BTW, the invasion at the border is not the "immigration system". The invaders are criminals. It is our criminal justice system that is overwhelmed.
     
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    I guess it's contagious?

    Ford Motor Co. Chief Executive Officer Jim Hackett encouraged President Donald Trump’s administration to resolve trade disputes quickly or it could do “more damage” to his company, which is already suffering losses from tariffs imposed by the White House.
    “The metals tariffs took about $1 billion in profit from us -- and the irony is we source most of that in the U.S. today anyways,” Hackett said in an interview on Bloomberg Television. “If it goes on longer, there will be more damage.”

    If you’re looking to buy a car from Ford, you’ll soon have only one choice: a Mustang.
    Faced with plunging demand and declining profits from its passenger car lineup, Ford will shift its resources to the booming side of the market: pickups, SUVs and crossover-utility vehicles, said CEO Jim Hackett late on Wednesday.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...mp-s-metals-tariffs-took-1-billion-in-profits
     
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    You sure jump around in your subjects. Most people would call that a red herring. You seem very adept at it. It seems to be a method of covering for posts that demonstrate that one doesn't know **** about what one is talking about so they just make **** up about a lot of other stuff to distract from the other **** they made up. For instance, this thread is about immigration and you are talking about steel tariffs.
     
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    Lousy management does that. Ellis Island could process over ten thousand per day, to alleviate issues on our borders.
     
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    I would agree with you, but there is no immigration clause in our Constitution. That makes it a lousy management problem.
     
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    right wing bigotry? there is no immigration clause in our Constitution. That makes it a lousy management problem.
     
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    Not even a quarter of that and if they could not prove they could support themsleves or had a sponsor they could Butler rejected and sent back. If they had health issues they could either pay to go to the hospital there or have a sponsor pay for it else they were sent back.

    So since you bring it up shall we go back to that?
     
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    it is our crime, drug, and terror wars that are creating refugees.

    why does the right wing only blame the Poor.

    Want to discuss that?
     
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    According to the Pope it is capitalism.
     
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    He is infallible.

    It must be due to the Capitalism and for-profit nature of right wing public policies.

    Good socialists recognize the right wing is being "immoral to the extent they engage in for profit ventures that promote the general warfare not the general welfare".

    Socialism should be used for the Goodness and not for the Badness.
     
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    Like GM they produce cars the public won't buy THAT is their problem. I sell to Hyundai, KIA, Toyota, Nissan and lots of their Tier One suppliers AND their steel suppliers. They are all doing quite well and expanding.

    And none of that has to do with immigration.
     
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    I asked you first
    Not even a quarter of that and if they could not prove they could support themsleves or had a sponsor they could Butler rejected and sent back. If they had health issues they could either pay to go to the hospital there or have a sponsor pay for it else they were sent back.

    So since you bring it up shall we go back to that?
     
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    What caused the problem was the Immigration Act of 1965 that was passed and signed into law on lies.

    But the real problem is when any President tried to enforce the nation's immigration laws that are already on the books or secure our borders they were called racist.

    Any time a President upholds his oath of office and enforces our immigration laws he will be called a racist.

    Any time Congress tries to pass immigration policies that secures our borders and keeps undesirable (criminals) wannabe immigrants out and protect Americans jobs and protects America's culture, customs, traditions, language, history and ethnic makeup of the country, they will be called racist.

    President Trump is being called a racists so he must be upholding the oath of President and defending the Constitution and enforcing the laws of the land.
     
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    It's no secret that the old American car companies don't have the same margins of the new car companies. That's why the tariffs tipped them over.
    Trumps approach to the border closing has the same problem as his tariffs. You don't sell a car until you have all the parts.
     
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    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-breaking-point.553365/page-5#post-1070402101
     
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    We don't expect refugees to support themselves. What we should expect, is the law of large numbers and our Commerce Clause to render that particular cost, a moot point.
     
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    YOU brought up Ellis Island not me. So do you support we go back to Ellis Island vetting and rejection else why did you bring it up?
     

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