LIVE: Fire ravages iconic Notre-Dame Cathedral in Paris

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    or they know the truth already, maybe it was a construction worker that reported the fire and how it occurred... we do not know yet, so do not rush to judgement on the statement they released being false
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    they saved much of the old artifacts early on removing them, had they dumped water on the building as Trump wanted them to, it could of damaged the artifacts and nearby buildings
     
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    Amazing to think that this magnificent church was built hundreds of years ago without power tools or computers to help in the design.Yet even today we cannot replicate the design and grandeur of this building,by contrast the skyscrapers we build today are largely rectangular boxes with none of the beauty of design displayed in Notre Dame.
     
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    God being the primary suspect.
     
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    They took their time. 182 years.
     
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    They ?

    Just a few
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Kinda like all those "thoughts and prayers" comments as a salve for the suffering, absolving speakers from actually doing anything about the causes and sources of the suffering to begin with. (assuming they have some modicum of power to do so);.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which of course means all muslims.

    Using your technique, it is rather easy to pull up comments by far right wing white people on various tragedies. I guess that means they also represent the vast majority of decent human beings on the planet.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Naturally a tragedy like this immediately brings out the muslim haters to blame them without a friggin shred of evidence just their own personal animus.

    "it must have been muslim arsonists because how else could the fire start?" Seems the haters can easily construct the appropriate scenerio for casting blame on the subjects of their hatreds, but lack the intellectual horsepower to consider the myriad of other possible causes.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    apparently you are not a student of history. Racist have most definitely formed armies and conquered territory throughout history. The last really big scumbag to try it resulted in the deaths of 25 million people.
     
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    Does anyone know if France contributed money to the rebuilding of the World Trade Center? Just thinking that we should probably help out with this when it comes time. I heard Macron is requesting the world's help.
     
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    Sorry, but does the possibility of water damage outweigh the certainty of a growing fire? The first 'might' happen while the second was certain.
     
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    Aided, tolerated, and abetted by the many.
     
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    A picture inside the cathedral suggests the timbers in the roof are mostly what's gone except for some damaged artifacts inside. If that's true, rebuilding time might be shortened.
    Yes, and I've seen Reims and Rouen--Chartres, too. I hope those responsible for maintaining the other cathedrals are paying close attention to fire protection.
     
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    There are "dry" methods of fire protection.
     
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    Well, Islam is a hate ideology, mind you.
    What do you do with a culture that wants your death and wealth?
     
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    I am sufficiently a student of history to know that we racists in the US fought in WWII with a segregated Army and interred Japanese citizens to boot. WWII was a dispute between racists.

    But you are happy fighting against the racists of yesteryear and using them to apologize for the very real threat we face today. Do you think the West actually deserves to be destroyed by alien cultures to atone for WWII?

    That seems to be the best explanation for the multicultural madness which has enthralled our elites. Do you have another?
     
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    Islam can be twisted into a hateful ideology, mind you.

    Just like evangelical christians use their ideology of "christian love" to justify their hatred of gay people.

    Well if it truly is that bad, I would suggest that sucking up to Saudi Arabia ain't the way to do it.
     
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    No need for that, it's already in the Islamic "sacred texts". Documented.
     
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    Brilliant strategy. (slo mo at 1:17) nice try tho.

     
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    I would assume no, since it is a private investment as opposed to a national monument.
     
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    It might be if it helps fuel internecine strife among Muslims. Why send Americans to kill Muslims if we can get them to kill each other?
     
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    if one did not care about the artifacts or the neighboring buildings, I suppose one would choose to do it that way, they chose

    either way woudl be a tragedy, the way they choose was the lesser of two evils

    the smartest move would of been to install a sprinkler system before hand... but all hindsight now, which is 20\20
     
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    I think Saint John the Divine in NYC used the same methods, and some decades ago they had to teach kids how to cut the stones in order to complete it. They say the Rose Window in Notre Dame was not touched by the fire and Putin offered the help of Russian restoration experts if France wants them. I suggest they use them, they won't charge as much.

    The Crown of Thorns which was stolen by the Fourth Crusaders from Constantinople together with all the other relics that ended up in Europe's churches, was saved by a brave Champlain. To be honest though, I am curious to know if it would have burned if he didn't?
     

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