The Bible says abortion is NOT murder.

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  1. saveliberty

    saveliberty Well-Known Member

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    Really? Then why do you have to kill them in order to stop their life?
     
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    saveliberty Well-Known Member

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    Hiding behind legalities is not really a defense.
     
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  3. Renee

    Renee Well-Known Member

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    How can you kill something that isn’t alive? You’re using the word killing for emotional reasons. I’ll use the analogy again ...if you don’t plant an acorn did you cut down a tree?
     
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    Uh, duh, ya usually have to kill to stop a life...:roll:
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    But a fetus is NOT a legal person...until it progresses to birth, then it is a legal person.



    I don't need a defense and I am not hiding behind anything.

    I stated facts.....
     
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  6. Renee

    Renee Well-Known Member

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    It isn’t? I’m going to rob a bank and then claim that legality not really defense
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if God can kill fetuses so as to punish sinful women, why can't we kill fetuses if they are dangerous to the health of a mother?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    what say you, @Spooky ?

    Bible says fetus can be used as a tool to punish sinful women
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Where does it say that?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers+5:11-31

    In Numbers 5:11, it says that if a wife is accused of being unfaithful and becoming pregnant by another man, they should go to a Priest and the Priest will cast a spell with water on the woman that will NOT harm her if she has not been unfaithful, but WILL cause the woman to miscarry if she is pregnant by another man.

    This clearly means that the Bible views the death of the fetus as punishment to the unfaithful woman, not as the illegal murder of an unborn child.
     
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    What hogwash
     
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    As we all know...abortion is part of god plan. Cheers!
     
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    Then why does he perform them (Miscarriage)?
     
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    The Bible says abortion is NOT murder.

    Are there not any books that say otherwise?
     
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    “Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you”

    Seems you are off course.

     
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    God knowing your potential in the womb and your being born are two quite different things especially as fully 50% of fertilised eggs fail to implant in the uterine wall.
     
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    Being an avowed atheist this just tickles my sense of justice since the bible has been used to justify so much
     
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    Isn’t he also supposed to count sparrows?
     
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    You did. But the facts you stated are illogical opinions, not really facts. Because law says a fetus has no human rights doesn't mean that it should be or that the law serves society positively. There are many, many, many bad laws.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    But a fetus is NOT a legal person...until it progresses to birth, then it is a legal person.





    I don't need a defense and I am not hiding behind anything.

    I stated facts.....





    There are bad laws but laws that protect women's right to their own bodies are GOOD laws.

    That is POSITIVELY good!!!


    What rights did you want to give fetuses?

    The right to use another's physical body to sustain their life?

    NO one else has that right! I can't demand another person give me their heart or lungs because I need new ones.

    Did you want the fetus to have the right to harm another when no one else has that right?

    There's a long list of physical damages and pain and changes pregnant women go through.

    If a BORN person caused those damages they'd end up in jail.


    ALL pregnancies carry the risk of death....NO one has the right to FORCE another person to risk their life for them.

    Why should a fetus have that right????

    OK, got any LOGICAL answers that aren't opinions ??????????


    BTW, yes I stated FACTS ( and YOU agreed) which cannot be " illogical opinion" BECAUSE they are FACTS.
     
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    I can’t educate those unwilling to learn.
     
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    Nope. I don’t think he knew you in the womb because he wanted you killed before birth. No logic in that.
     
  23. Bowerbird

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    And yet is it not akin to the sparrow falling because according to this and by your logic we shouldn’t cut our hair either

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    Nope you fail to understand what the word logic means. God knew us before we were born, therefore we existed as persons before we were born. Your hair assertion makes no sense.
     
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    You seem to fail to understand that a fetus doesn’t develop unless planted ( or more precisely implanted)
     
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