trump to hungry: Let them eat "whatever."

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  1. Qohelet

    Qohelet Active Member

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    Milk is mandatory thing, but most of teenagers drink just water. I was searching pictures, but I don't have any on my PC - those in web was mostly with people so.. better not use them. Maybe I can find some plates.. have to hunt them xD

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    Lol, that's really basic..I think that's pretty old picture. Food is funded by taxation, but not in University (there it's around 2,60€ / meal)
     
  2. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    Short of changing the way the economic system works (getting rid of right-to-work laws, stopping big companies from squashing small business, etc., not socialism), having rich people pay more is better. The imbalance is so great now, we risk losing our free enterprise system.
     
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    sure it would, you raise the tax rate and raise the bottom to cover it and it covers non-labored income as well

    so if you set the bottom to 20k

    and you earn 43k, you pay tax on 23k\

    you can adjust the bottom and the tax percent
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Now it’s not a flat tax anymore.
     
  5. Moi621

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    I see maybe a tablespoon of shredded mystery white meat
    slopped with high carb gravy.


    What ever happened to a big slab of meat loaf,
    mashed potatoes & gravy and corn?

    These charitable means for children are disgusting my their
    lack of meat.
    Give them a moderate bowl of soup and beat the one who begs for more, mentality.


    Meat inclusive of Chicken, Turkey and preferably not frozen
    and sometimes fresh.
     
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    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Im confused, why was I quoted?
     
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    SteadyPie, I think I might have responded to a post that wasn't yours. Miscommunication. Sorry.
     
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    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All good bro, enjoy your night.
     
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    Pipette8 Well-Known Member

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    You also.
     
  10. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Okay...sounds like a plan.
     
  11. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I did NOT say that. If you have an issue with what I did say...post it.

    I have no savings...no pension other than Social Security...my Social Security is less than $1000 per month...and my earnings during the summer at the golf course is $11.50 per hour...I work 13 hours a week.

    Anything else you need to know?

    So am I...and I too hope it gets well soon.


    What you have done is to constantly question what I actually said...and made up stuff that I did not say.

    I said I am below the poverty line.

    I AM!

    I do not care if YOU consider the line to be arbitrary...I LIVE BELOW THE POVERTY LINE.

    And I have a wonderful life. My needs are not many...the woman I have lived with for the last 35 years is a gem...and has very modest needs also.

    I pay my way.
     
  12. Collateral Damage

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    And so the world turns.

    But, as you like to say, 'screw you I got mine', and would you treat some differently because of their political lean? I'd say highly likely.
     
  13. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You might.

    I would not...but I can understand that you might.
     
  14. Qohelet

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    Maybe I have to sneak in school and take some pictures what they are doing now.10 years ago I was at high schools kitchen. Actually school-food is getting better, but some parents think that we have too much vegetables, lettuce, etc..rabbit food. In capital city, Helsinki, they planned vegan day (once a week), but some locals "gunned down" that idea. Main goal is healthy food, but going for vegan route isn't right way.to do it.
     
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    Oh, let us not revert to school yard tactics.

    You have made it clear that all Conservatives, in your eyes, are horrid creatures to be disdained and crunched underfoot. A simple extrapolation of that is someone is in need, first and foremost is their political position, you would judge them wanting and not worth your time if they were in need.

    And that is where you and I actually differ. I do not judge someone for their political position, with exception to those who use it as a judgement themselves. Not that it would worry you, I'm sure.
     
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    What is "healthy food"?
    Depends on your genome ;)


    For Nordics,
    It is using meat for energy!

    Not just to cover nutritional bases.

    Nordics and Japanese use to be "Kidney Disease Nations"
    before WW2 because of too much sustenance being, fish.
    A gram of fish is harder on the kidneys than a gram of land animal meat.


    For a good time check out what happens to Western Peoples
    who decide to eat as Hindus.
    Hindus evolved to survive on their diet. Over thousands of years, those who couldn't didn't.



    And consider what happens to the Native American / Inuit when
    offered such carbs as bread, pasta, sugar products, etc.
    That population didn't see such items until a few hundred years ago.
    Not like thousands of years ago for "Moi's Tribe".


    Moi :oldman:
    Carbs for desert, not sustenance.




    :nana: :flagcanada:
     
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    I asked why you don't take a homeless person into your home and provide for them. You responded with "I am one of them" and that "I live below the poverty line". Was it wrong of me to infer that you consider yourself too poor to help? That is what I took from your response. Was I wrong in thinking that?

    If that was not what you meant, then why don't you take in a poor homeless person and feed them and provide shelter?

    Perhaps there is some confusion. Would you be so kind as to re-answer the question above so we can clear this up? Again, why do you not take in a homeless person and provide them food and shelter?

    I am sincerely proud of you for that. I wish more were like. I wish more were self-responsible like you. Do you have a problem with me paying my way? Or do you expect me to also pay for other people's way?
     
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    Feed a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Jerks support the first part, the wise support the second part.
     
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    Typical Repub mantra...."We got ours....you don't.....screw you....."
     
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    pol meister Well-Known Member

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    Incentivise sloth, and you get more sloth. Incentivise work, and you get more work. Why are such simple precepts so foreign to the liberal mind?
     
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    Having a governing system that applies to law-abiding people in vastly different ways has much to do with the division and strife we see in our society. Every single one of us adults should pay at least something into the system. At least then we would all have something in common.

    The current system pits us against each other as citizens, and the government ends up as a battleground of competing interests. There is greed and corruption and self-dealing in every economic class. Shame it has to be that way, but our societal and class leaders sow the seeds of dissent and corruption, victimhood and unfairness, and fighting against the "evil," all to disguise self-interest.
     
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    THAT was a schoolyard tactic, CD.

    If you have gotten that impression...you have gotten a very distorted message.

    I use qualifiers...almost always using the qualifier "American"...and often the qualifier "Internet posting."

    The thrust of my considerations about American conservatives who post on the Internet...is that the vast majority of them are the scum of humanity.

    (Some are not. I meet with some Internet conservatives from other forums in New York for drinks...and we have a wonderful time together. Mostly we do not discuss what we call "business" while in entertainment mode.)

    My non-cyber life is filled with staunch American conservatives...my brother, his wife, several of my cousins, for instance. I love each and every one of them.

    I work in one of the ten richest, most conservative counties in the country (FOR THE COUNTY)...my bosses and fellow workers are almost all staunch conservatives. My golf buddies are almost all white, European heritage males of "advanced" age...damn near every one a staunch conservative.

    I love them all! If a melee broke out...I'd be in it on their side.

    So!





    Not sure where that comes from...but there is no way you could logically derive it from anything I have said.

    I want America...with its capitalistic system...to conquer poverty. ENTIRELY. FOR EVERYONE.

    Right now the starting point is "we have nothing and must earn whatever we get." ***

    I want the starting point to be EVERYONE (rich, poor, religious, non-religious, liberal, conservative, middle of the road, black, white, pink with purple stripes, tall, short, heavy, thin...EVERYONE) to start with SUFFICIENT. Enough food, shelter, clothing, medical care, educational opportunities...and the other accouterments of a reasonable life.

    Then the dog-eat-dog for who gets more...much more...and much, much more.

    ***As for working...the last thing in the world I want to see are the lazy and incompetent working. They screw things up. I want them to have sufficient to keep them out of the way. To them I would say: If you wanna help...DON'T HELP...until you can be not-lazy and not-incompetent.

    I am not especially interested in your high opinion of yourself...or your relatively low opinion of me.
     
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    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, you were wrong...and have been right along.

    Because I want it to be a government function. I want them to take money from you...and all the others...and become a benevolent government...

    ...despite the bullshit coming from the likes of you.


    Answered.

    And I did it without all those starry things that show at times.


    Answered.
     
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    Thank you. I understand now. Others need to pay. I appreciate you taking the time. But could you clarify what you mean by "and all the others"? Would that be every United States citizen? All legal residents? All residents whether legal or illegal? Or just a subset of these groups?

    But... why didn't you simply respond with that answer originally instead of telling me that you are one of the poor people and that you live under the poverty line? Why didn't you just tell me that you want the government to take my hard-earned money out of my family's pocket and redistribute it to others in the first place?
     
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    You demonstrated how “to lie with statistics”. At least be honest enough to admit it.
     

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