Paris Homeless Population Disappointed in Notre Dame Fund-Raising

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  1. VotreAltesse

    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    French people can get the RSA, it's around 500 euros per month. It's not enough to live, but it's already something. A lot of those homeless people aren't french and have nothing to do there.
     
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    Hmmm making assumptions happens a lot when it comes to homelessness, like all the conservatives who assume that all homeless people are lazy junkies and drunks who just want handouts.
     
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    As opposed to liberals who think none of them are lazy drunks or junkies.
     
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    Democrats support funding rehab, temporary housing, jobs training, job placement and education programs to help homeless people get back on their feet, while the Republican plan is typically make homelessness a crime.

    The really funny part is how badly homeless soldiers suffering from PTSD are treated in Republican states. They make up about 40% of homeless in the US, and yet they get almost no help in Republican states. So much for the GOP's love of the troops. Turns out that it was just another talking point that was forgotten when it came down to actually spending the time and money to do something about it.
     
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    The French are very generous, perhaps to a fault. The emphasis is on what they call 'solidarity'. What, I believe, is often forgotten is that solidarity is a two way street; you can't be in solidarity with someone who is not in solidarity with you. The effort has to come from both sides, and not merely the effort of holding out one's hand.
     
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    Funny that there are more homeless in liberals states than republican ones.

    Tell me, how's that homeless problem in LA working out for ya?

    Fixed it yet?

    If you take such good care of them maybe that's why it's expanding and they are leaving their needles everywhere for little kids to step on.
     
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    We aren't the only ones who helped improve the world. That is a fallacy that we need to forget. We are not the rulers of the world. It is not right to tell others how to live and then pay them to uphold what we believe is best for them. What right do we have to do that? We have none. Now, I'm not talking about slavery, genital mutilation of women, or several other heinous activities.

    In those, we must join with others in the world to pressure them to discuss these issues and take positive actions.

    We cannot sustain the world as we are. The world is not ours. It is everyone's. There is nothing wrong with letting them decide when they are ready for smart phones, online gaming, twitter, etc. There is nothing wrong with letting them decide if they want the type of feminism we have. We are not the geniuses of the world.

    China/communism starts at home. We are seeing it creep into our culture and government. If that is what you are concerned about with China, it is too late. We should have been paying attention long ago. We were too busy being greedy and arrogant.

    Trump did not publicly respond. We don't know what happened privately. We don't know what plans are being made or what is going to happen. No other president got as far as Trump. Why can't we be happy about that instead of constantly looking at the glass as half-empty?

    I'm tired of having to give money to other countries to keep them on our side. It's wrong. It's like the mob when they went to small businesses and made them pay for 'protection'... from what? Well, from them. It's extorsion on a global scale.

    There is no common world currency, so there is a huge issue alone. We are so far from a 'fair' world, it's incredible. It truly will never be fair.

    Take care of your 'children' first and care for your family. Next, help others as you are able. That help does not include paying them to be on our side. Federal dollars should not be used to pay other countries. Those should be private funds that are not tax deductible. What good is it to pay other nations when we need the money here?

    I simply do not understand this idea of abundance. Sure, there is abundance. It also means those who claim we are in horrible shape are liars and myth mongers. They are con artists who want what they want when they want it. Grow up, I say. Reality is going to smack you in the face.
     
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    Throwing money and FREE stuff at this problem has NEVER worked....
     
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    That's in Republican states they tend to just throw them in jail for being homeless. So there is less people on the street.
     
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    Well the best way to help the homeless.

    1. Re-institutionalize mental ill people who are unwilling to take their medications and aren't able to provide for themselves properly with levels from long term higher security for the few dangerous ones and lesser options after a hearing.

    2. Those with substance abuses and due to sound reason Vets or poor medical management see #1 but add treatment for them.

    3. For bums who don't want to work, work houses you put them in housing limiting their privileges as an alternative to jail and prison, give them work to do in return for this until they decide to leave and can show a court officer they are willing to work normally.

    4. Working poor, disabled persons with checks coming in and other worthy poor need housing they can afford build the most basic boring housing you can with minimal space and rent them out at a price one can afford that might mean in NYC a basic as hell two bedroom ugly building unit for $500 a month on needs admission as an average paid for by the government and run at cost. In other places it might be cheaper. And why not pay people to move to places with work if they opt not to then cut them off.
     

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