You have questions? Why not answer some...or address those posts you seem to feel are inconvenient.. FoxHastings said: ↑ . Yes, women have that CHOICE..."choice" means there is more than one option. They all don't want to limit themselves to "Jennifer" and kissy face YES, THEY have to take responsibility for it NOT YOU. It is THEIR responsibility to decide to keep it or not.... WTF is a mulligan?
FoxHastings said: ↑ Oh when did this mysterious "we" present that crap to the Supreme Court....the date when it was heard????? YOU posted : ""Spooky said: ↑ Oh we will and are. """" See, "are" means you are doing it right now... Oh when did this mysterious "we" present that crap to the Supreme Court....the date when it was heard?????
I said we are going to present it, not that we have. And a mulligan is a do-over shot in golf. How do you not know this? And quit typing all weird. Why can't you type like a normal person?
. Then don't type so weird because you posted :YOU posted : ""Spooky said: ↑ Oh we will and are. """" Why should I? Are you a golf pro, too? More excuses for not answering or addressing those "inconvenient" posts... Have you decided how fetuses are going to tell you if they want to be aborted or not? Cell phone? ESP? Morse Code? And there is nothing weird about the following ( that you couldn't address): See, "are" means you are doing it right now... Oh when did this mysterious "we" present that crap to the Supreme Court....the date when it was heard?????
Why are you leaving out the "when" part? Oh yeah, that would fit the narrative of the lie you are trying to create. And why do you need to be a golf pro to know what a mulligan is? So if I say that Tom Brady may pass for 1200 yards this year your reply will be, "what are you, the top rated quarterback in the league now"? Just give it up, you are on the losing end here.
Post 1042 SpookyWell-Known MemberDonor Joined: Nov 29, 2013 : ↑ Oh we will and are. Spooky, Today at 5:54 PM Report """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""" WHERE IS THE "WHEN" in that post? The FACT is there is NO argument being brought to the Supreme Court...NO Anti-Choicer has EVER stated one of any intelligence, coherence or containing any facts..... I suppose now you'll want to talk about something else off topic to avoid responding.... The rest of your post is just more of your "I can't address any facts so I'll blather on about golf and football" excuse Have you decided how fetuses are going to tell you if they want to be aborted or not? Cell phone? ESP? Morse Code?
As I stated before, there will be a case brought before the Court eventually and when it is it is likely to overturn RvW. I am sure there are people planning this already. I can sense your fear through the computer.
What "case" ? There hasn't been one in 50 years......what new idea to take away women's right to their own bodies have they come up with ? ZERO, nada, nothing. You're sure there's people planning this ALREADY? What are they waiting for? Yes, there should be fear when one entity tries to take away people's right to their own body. But I have facts on my side and you have nothing...so no real fear...….the Repubs will milk this as long as there are those ignorant one issue voters... Post 1042 SpookyWell-Known MemberDonor Joined: Nov 29, 2013 : Oh we will and are. Spooky, Today at 5:54 PM Report """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""" WHERE IS THE "WHEN" in that post? NO ANSWER.
The most recent case was a Texas law in 2016 that was giving doctors admitting privileges. It would have passed except for the ******* Kennedy who was the swing vote. Currently there are a number of abortion cases working their way through the courts and any one of them could be taken by the Supreme Court and overrule RvW.
That phony illegal "admitting privilege crap was sent where it was supposed to go , no where.....and it didn't ban abortion anyway, it was just to make women's lives harder...something the righties seem to like.. And what is the argument for taking away women's rights to their own body? YOU have NOT said what that is.....why don't you know what it is??? You seem to know so much about this but can't state what argument they would use ...
That they know not what they do. Arguing that abortion carries consequences is a legitimate part of the overall pro-life argument. Even if you can argue that an abortion might still be overall better for the woman, the fact that it is not such an overwhelmingly clear good thing can help (in however incremental of a way) tip the scales towards the other side of the argument.
Exactly right. This thread isn't about abortion it's about the women who suffer from that decision they made. Liberals think it's a celebration but many women struggle intensely with the regret of what they have done.
If killing a baby in the womb is acceptable to Protestant groups then I'd say there are far fewer actual serious Christians than the general statistics indicate. As for Catholics, it's been long known in America about half of them are Catholic in name only.
I wonder what the results of polling those people would be if you asked them how many of them would have been ok with being aborted because they were "too much work" for their mom. How many do you think would have said yes they would have no problem with that.
It better be damn early or there be a really good reason. And don't give me "But it had a deformity". Well, if I can smother a 2 year old with a pillow who has that deformity, then it's okay for you to abort. Or "woman's health". Yeah, hardline pro-choicers believe ALL abortions are for women's health.
so why does God create natural abortions? maybe a soul just jumps to the next vessel ready for life - do you believe God is good like that and per the bible, it seems life begins on the first breath of life
I won't do that dog and pony show but from personal experience, though we have a poster who loves to toot toot the baby is her body, I do not believe the baby is her body. From personal experience, when she tells me she is pregnant, she concedes the body is not hers, but the baby's body. I never had either of my wives have a miscarriage. I know they exist. I read about it. The Soul does show up. Question is when. I never argue personally that is the way to see this. I know that my wives once they announced being pregnant, believed they had a baby they carried to birth. I dread the idea either of my two wonderful daughters would have to suffer a fate known as abortion. Why don't the posters tell us what takes place to the body during the abortion? Good stuff like they get ripped to bits.
Yes @dairyair cc: @kazenatsu Even WITHIN that framework, you can say that all "free choice" is set up between options already preset. However from man's viewpoint, especially when we are given the "choice" to forgive and agree to let go and make peace, doesn't that "require free will as built into the system." Aren't we designed as human beings not to forgive by force or by fate, but this mechanism of forgiveness requires that element of choosing and agreeing to RECEIVE GOD's GIFT OF DIVINE GRACE AND FORGIVENESS by free will, or else it isn't real and doesn't work?
