What If Fox News Covered Trump the Way It Covered Obama? | NowThis

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  1. randlepatrickmcmurphy

    randlepatrickmcmurphy Well-Known Member

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    OK, I did that and nothing I can see there that supports your assertion. Just a video about Trump making up a silly name for Adam Schiff.
     
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    Well, let's see how FNC coverage of Trump was in his first 100 days in office:

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    Is FNC supposed to go 90% negative against Trump like so much of the left-leaning news networks, before you view them as balanced?
     
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    randlepatrickmcmurphy Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, but that's not fake news. It was on all the news wires that day. It turned out to be false, as some stories turn out to be. CNN did the right thing by airing a correction and pulling the false story.
     
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    That was done in direct response to CNN making outright false news stories that slandered Trump, all throughout the two and a half years they were calling Trump a traitor for colluding with Russians. CNN was deserved of the "fake news" moniker.

    Three journalists leaving CNN after retracted article

    CNN quietly edits incorrect Trump story, only adds editor's note after media report

    New York Times Caught MAKING-UP False Quote From Trump’s CPAC Speech
     
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    EyesWideOpen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, that's just it. Everyone was obsessed with tarnishing Trump. They rushed out negative stories to bash Trump, without verifying whether they were in fact true or not.

    This is why so many people are coming to the conclusion that the integrity and reliability of our news media to keep us informed with the facts and the truth, died in 2016.

    Savaging Trump became their mission.
     
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    Uhm... OK... you did not really search for CNN + Pencilneck, have you? :wall:

    Now... do CNN + Adam Schiff please.
     
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    Give me 5 false stories that CNN made against Trump.
     
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    It's hard to report something positive when everything coming from you is negative.
     
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    Yes, I really did. You got me interested and then left me hanging.
     
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    fake=/false? Don't think so. I also posted two examples, either of which proved my point.
     
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    Red herring. I could care less if they corrected the story or if every single MSM source posted the same thing, it doesn't disprove my point.
     
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    He specifically mentioned Hannity in his post, but no, I did not watch the video while at work. How many others are talking heads instead of hard news anchors?
     
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    Here's an analogy you can relate to. If Trump lies about something and then later admits he was wrong, does that change the fact that he lied? Same with these false stories. The MSM is quick to print anything negative about their political rivals and when they make a correction it is often very low key and not seen by the majority of those who read the original article. For a good example, my local rag went all out on that fake Trump hat wearing White men rip hijab from Muslim woman story. Almost the entire first page with multiple full color photos along with 1/2 page continuation. But once it was determined to be fake, they printed the retraction in the bottom right corner of a page that often gets skipped in a small box. That is the MO for the MSM, print whatever they want or rage 24/7 for several news cycles and if the story is false, just broadcast a 10 sec retraction or print a tiny retraction in an obscure place and carry on with the next outrage. They know very well that the number of people who see the retraction will be far smaller than those who saw the original story. This is one reason I see some people keep repeating the same debunked talking points, they never see the retraction.
     
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    Of course it does, but this guy will NEVER do that.

    If Trump tells a lie and they print the lie he told, how is that fake news when they reported what he said.
     
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    That's all subjective.

    If you do not like a politician, then sure, their policy proposals, their choices of words, their tweets or comments are negative, to you.

    But if you are reporting the news, you should be nonobjective, and you should not be slanting the public's perception of the news by making your personal bias by inserting your own opinion as to the president's thinking or intentions, or inviting others to pile on with their negative bias against Trump, and making opinions a part of a hard news story.
     
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    Fair enough, so if Trump lies let me change that. When Trump lies how is the media suppose to report on it?
     
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    Obviously it's not negative news if you are just reporting the news. Calling him a liar, would be taking it into negative news.

    When Obama cited incorrect facts the news orgs that loved the man would not even bother to mention it. They'd consider a misspoken comment, or slip of the tongue, or just a slight exaggeration to get the audience to focus on the larger issue. Uttering incorrect facts and figures by the President, would be viewed by a favorable press as just not news worthy.

    For example, when politicians the liberal press favor, like Biden, misstated facts, the press just rolled their eyes and let it slide, "that's just Joe, being Joe."

    When Trump does the same thing, and cites facts the press does not agree with, they are enraged. For the next two weeks they assemble discussion panel after discussion panel with multiple talking heads, venting their outrage over Trump claiming rapists are crossing our southern border. Being careful not to cite sources like Huffington Post who write stories that 80% of Central American women are being raped crossing the border.
     
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    If you lie doesn't that make you a liar.

    Sorry Pres Obama didn't just flat out lie like Trump, he has taken lying to a new level.

    I will give you that one.
    I am sorry you can't defend this garbage that Trump does, but Trumpers try everyday.
     
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    How did they report on it when Obama lied? They ignored it completely seeing it as beneath them to report on. Or the press covered for Obama by commenting that he was just misspoken, made a mistake, or characterize his statement as an exaggeration, a poetic license so he could have his audience focus on the larger issue.

    I never remember CNN, MSNBC, et al, make the statement that Obama lied, and they never hinted that he was lying to intentionally try and mislead the people.
     
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    Are you serious? Wide open. What if CNN and msnbc had reported on Obama the way they report on President Trump?
     
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    What did Pres Obama just flat out lie about that you claim wasn't reported.
     
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    They couldn't for the simple fact that Pres Obama NEVER lied like Trump does.
     
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    President Trump has not told outright lies like Obama did about his new health care plan. Those lies affected their pocketbook. You can keep your plan. You can keep your doctor. Campaign lie: I will repeal unwarranted wiretapping that Bush started - lie. Campaign lie: I will close GITMO - lie. You all will never even address those lies because you are not liberals, you are leftist hacks. CNN, msnbc never even reported that he lied about it, and guess what, neither did you. You cannot and will not say one lie or list one scandal that Obama did while he is president.
     
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    Politicians exaggerate the facts all the time. Warren exaggerated the possibility that she had Native-American blood.

    Obama said his parents conceived him in Selma, during the famous march. Did he lie, or just exaggerate by a few years to endear himself to the audience?

    Obama promised to serve his full six-year US Senate term and not run for president or vice president in 2008. Did he lie, just to get elected?

    And of course, he promised we could keep our plan and doctor. Did he lie, by purposely stating something as fact, that he knew he had no way of knowing if it would be true?

    I could go on and on, but i think you get the point

    It only seems like Trump is unprecedented, because the press was mostly favorable to Obama. They did not cover the false promises and misstatements of facts made by Obama. With Trump, it's an obsession with the press to hound him for days and weeks over anything he says, and then call it a "lie."

    See above. Obama lied to get elected, lied to pass legislation, but he was never characterized as doing such.

    You're not a big Biden fan, eh? ;)

    I don't defend him. I have said that exaggerating the facts like he does, weakens the ability for people to take him at his word. But so many politicians do this, it's why they, as a group, have the reputation of being dishonest.

    Like Biden, Trump exaggerates all the time, we may not like that style of grandiose speak, but we learn to work thru it. Trump's golf course is always the biggest, bestest, yaddah, yaddah, whatever. Everything with Trump is always the best, you better believe it.
     
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    If we need a round table of critics to pour over misstatement of facts by politicians, especially those running for president, or at the highest levels in government, there would not be enough cable TV hours in a day to do it.

    So, stick to misstatements of fact tied to trying to get major legislation passed, or disparage another candidate during an election, etc... Misstatements that are inconsequential should be ignored, or maybe cited in passing, but not obsessed over.

    Some of the worst lies are when people call Trump a white supremacist, or racist, and yet these are comments made by the network anchors. So when the same people get away with lies such as those, it turns the entire media on its head, and tarnishes anything else there frauds have to say.
     

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