That's funny because all of the responsible women I know can afford it and do not have unwanted pregnancies. Except the one instance I brought up that was the doctors fault.
You want to how I know? It's because they said "Damn, I'm pregnant I need an abortion" That's how I know.
Surrrrre, they did....and gave you all the details (did you enjoy that?)….and told you all about how they paid for it and every detail of their lives.....surrrrre they did How odd women just flock to you and give you their medical problems. Now, even if this was true ( and why you believe them, I don't know, I don't believe you) it proves NOTHING about facts and laws...
WOW! Amazing how you are so privy to so many women's intimate sexual lives!!! Simply astounding!! ...and even if true, has NOTHING to do with women's right to their own bodies or abortion laws or facts or anything else...
The Virginia governor (not an expert) did not describe infanticide as you claim. What he did describe was the delivery of a terminally ill fetus, which once removed from the life support of the womb, being unable to maintain it's own existence, is made comfortable while nature takes it's course. Trump's gross travesty of lies is simply red meat for his followers who gobble it up because they want to believe it.
Excellent slapdown of Trump's ignorant lies from an actual expert. https://www.michiganadvance.com/blo...lvers-tweets-on-trumps-abortion-lie-go-viral/
I DARE the Trumpers to read it....but I doubt they will....they prefer inflammatory hyperbolic lies over facts .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/people.com/crime/doctors-and-nurses-who-kill-gallery-2/amp/ “Genene Jones Authorities suspect the Texas pediatric nurse, 66, may have killed up to 60 childrenin her care with fatal overdose injections at hospitals and clinics around San Antonio between 1977 and 1982. She was sentenced to 99 years in 1984 for killing 15-month-old Chelsea McClennan, and another 60 years for nearly killing 4-week-old Rolando Santos. But under a law in effect at the time, she is due for release in March 2018. Two new charges that allege she killed an 11-month-old and a 2-year-old in 1981 might put Jones back on trial and keep her behind bars.” Politicians are the ones who write laws to govern use why would this be any different...... You think doctors can’t have biases as well or agendas? Politicians are who writes the laws, doctors aren’t above them. Yes deformities that would be an exception to the 2002 law can be quantified. Right now by doctors withholding medical care to baby’s they not the laws to be unviable is against the 2002 law.
FoxHastings said: ↑ You think lawmakers are saints !!???? WHAT!!!! What a amazing thing to think!!! THEY have a stake in it politically, doctors don't...OMGAWD , just what an amazing thing to think!!! So you think every single deformity can be measured, classed, and they all fit a perfect pattern and description…..how odd!! You don't know that not all illnesses and deformities are the same?? That fetuses will vary??? But then you think a politician is a "go-to" for fetal deformity.....and for car repair go to a grocery store So? There's laws against murder.... What has this got to do with the topic? NOTHING. AND, IF they're smart, they consult experts in the field of the laws they're proposing....they certainly shouldn't base laws on overly emotional factless hyperbole. No, but WISE politicians confer with experts in field related to laws they're trying to enact. Could you rephrase that garbled sentence??
One, that excerpt about the nurse was to highlight that doctors and nurse aren’t infallible. Two, I never have said the politicians shouldn’t consult medical professionals to determine what deformities should be exceptions to the 2002 law regarding infants. That would be asinine to think that, but at the end of the day politicians are the ones who write laws governing the people and what and what isn’t considered deformities needs to be set in stone by politicians so that the criteria isn’t ever changing depending on the medical practitioner.
So an officer of the law will be standing by for consultation in every single one of these situations to make sure a law isn't broken? I don't think so... Your ridiculous example with the nurse murderer is pathetic....PEOPLE commit crimes....lawyers commit crimes but that doesn't mean we should never trust a lawyer. Meat inspectors commit crimes but we still rely on their skill. Teachers commit crimes but they aren't all banned from schools. Police commit crimes but we still use them for protection.......in other words , your example was asinine. It's also asinine to think politicians don't consult experts when making up laws...
Ya I don’t think that politicians don’t consult experts in the fields that politicians are writing laws governing. Can you quote where I said otherwise? “Your ridiculous example with the nurse murderer is pathetic....PEOPLE commit crimes....lawyers commit crimes but that doesn't mean we should never trust a lawyer. Meat inspectors commit crimes but we still rely on their skill.” Who determines what are crimes? Oh that’s right politicians. Politicians write laws governing meat inspectors, laws that govern lawyers, polices, teachers etc. Why would doctors get an exemption?
Where did I say doctors should be exempted from the law? No where. In your haste to view all women and doctors as blood thirsty criminals your posts have devolved to incoherent rambling. I bet anything you won't read the link in post #282 to see what really happens …...that takes courage.
FoxHastings said: ↑ Where did I say doctors should be exempted from the law? No where. In your haste to view all women and doctors as blood thirsty criminals your posts have devolved to incoherent rambling. I bet anything you won't read the link in post #282 to see what really happens …...that takes courage. Of course YOU didn't read it....
FoxHastings said: ↑ WOW! Amazing how you are so privy to so many women's intimate sexual lives!!! Simply astounding!! ...and even if true, has NOTHING to do with women's right to their own bodies or abortion laws or facts or anything else... """...and even if true ( which I doubt), has NOTHING to do with women's right to their own bodies or abortion laws or facts or anything else..."""
Gee I wonder where one would ever get that idea that doctors should be exempt...... “The women and their doctors will decide will decide what will be productive and what won’t” “HER kid, her life, her consequences her responsibility..... NOT Big Government’s or yours”
And right there you lost credibility to me You are obviously non sympathetic in relation to abortion and yet multiple women have spoken to you this way - does not ring true Especially when it is at odds with published research
I never said doctors should be exempt from the law...YOU said I did and got "confused," AGAIN. YES, it is the doctor(expert) and woman(next of kin) who decide...within the legal boundaries... You might not like women having that power but they, and other next of kin, make those decisions already .