Candace Owens - Liberty University Convocation

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  1. CCitizen

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    Sad but true -- a few Conservatives are bigoted toward minorities like African Americans or LBGT or people with disability. Those who oppose Welfare State oppose disabled people's right to normal life.

    But overall, Liberals tend to be much more Totalitarian.
     
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    I am not qualified for anything. But few great people were not autistic.
     
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    Dear @Robert I would like to see more critics
    like Candace Owen apply Christianity to EMBRACE and work WITH those who
    need support to change the most. Not reject Democrats or liberals
    then wonder why they respond by rejection and criticism right back!

    The Golden Rule still applies.

    If you want this relationship to change from adversarial and mutual rejection
    to allies working together on reforms, inside and out,
    then it takes mutual effort.

    Be the change you want to inspire others to share in as well.

    It's not a matter of I changed so I want to compel YOU to change my way.
    It's a matter of recognizing change is mutual, and both sides have to
    stretch to accommodate and understand where the other is coming from.

    Not imposing our ways on each other, then wondering why that fails.
    If you don't like liberals criticizing and telling you that it's YOU who needs to change,
    why would this tactic work with conservatives telling liberals YOU need to change, not us?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When did Gates drop out.
    When did he become a millionaire.
    How long did it take for him to become a billionaire?

    Why are you judging her by money made when she recently entered the world of working for a living?
    Bill Gates became a billionaire not for selling product, but for marketing stock.
     
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    I do not recognize that from any of her speaking moments. Good idea on your part I say precisely that to Democrats.

    Candace grew up being tested on her Christian faith by her grandfather By the time she entered college, she had fallen away from Christianity. 2 years ago she recovered due to Yoga with the meditation involved. She quit drinking.

    She returned to Christianity and speaks of her going back.

    I am a reformed Democrat. I once voted only for Democrats.

    Watch forum democrats refusing to admit to anything they do wrong.
     
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    uh huh...sure. We'll revisit this once she changed back to a dem once Trump is done with his time.

    I'm pretty sure Gate isn't a political hack. Mighty "cute" of you to think that Candace Owens have changed the world. Laughable material really. You've outdone yourself tonight with that one.
     
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    UC Berkeley is the 40th best college in the United States. Liberty is 609th
     
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    Likewise with forum republicans. Such is the nature of humans. Are you surprise?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am close to Berkeley but what is the 4 year cost to attend Liberty vs cost at Berkeley. When Ronald Reagan was governor, Berkeley still was low cost. Today we have had plenty of Democrats and the costs skyrocketed.
     
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    My frightful crime is promoting freedom nay Liberty. I promote a much more benign Federal Government, at a much lower cost with 1/100 of the lying of Congress.
     
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    Candace was unheard when Trump took office. Today she is a fabulous speaker who promotes freedom as I constantly promote. Gates once was so despised by Democrats. I frankly recall how hated he was. I used to defend him from Democrats.

    Candace is black and one might expect some support for her from both Blacks and Democrats. She tells Black not to be victims. She loves Blacks.

    When I promote promoters of freedom, I seem to attract from the Democrats class those who believe in whacking posters around. Funny innit?
     
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    Once you become a republican, and I speak as a former very devoted Democrat, it is like you came to Jesus. I am not trying to relate it to religion but to a particular philosophy of good.

    I see in Candace a very good ... very smart and well informed young woman. She is highly regarded among the smart people.
     
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    I have no point of view at all on that issue. I simply can't relate to that claim.
     
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    You always deflect. This have zero to do with the thing you've posted or my response to you.

    Side note: Congress consists of both those on the left and those on the right. The right is just as capable as lying to get their agenda across so you can quit blaming the dems.
     
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    Thanks for the laugh. Smart people see her for what she is. A disingenuous person out to ride Trump's coat tail. A smart person would not buy into her "the NRA trained blacks to defend themselves against the KKK." That is just a plain dumb comment.
     
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    I see. Do you want to settle for mediocrity? There is a reason why Berkeley cost more than Liberty. When Reagan was governor? Are you kidding me? How long ago was that again??
     
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    I long ago stopped with the false label they are liberals. You corrected it to say they are Totalitarian. That is a fact. It is so easy to prove that i proved it many many times.

    I would modify your remark to say the bigots are Democrats when it comes to blacks. Blacks do not need this nonsense from Democrats. Blacks must stop thinking they are victims. They are easy targets for Democrats.

    From 1964 up to around 1995, I never heard any Democrat claim they became changed people by 1964. They rather hurl blame at republicans. But for many years post 1964 they had not tried to claim they reformed and became republicans. Seems crazy they say it when you think it through.

    Claim. Republicans passed the civil rights law so Democrats being pissed off decided to join their enemy. That is the story they sell to the people who do not know the history of Democrats.

    Democrats pulled out all tricks allowed in Congress to stop the civil rights laws from being sent to Johnsons Desk for signature. Johnson always called the civil rights law the N1gg&R law.
     
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    I am serious. Sorry you are laughing. I see her for what she is. I doubt other posters can leap over my IQ and I speak as tested in school. and in the military.

    She will tell you she loves Trump. Maybe that is why you think so low of her. I have never heard that claim made about the woman. But the NRA is well known to train people the correct and safe way to handle weapons. My high school formally trained me on guns and later I got more training by the Army.

    She does ask Blacks to produce the name of a KKK that is harming them. So far no black has named a KKK that has harmed them.

    What hits my funny bone is the utter hate coming from Democrats at a wonderful black young woman. She is not to their schooled form of thinking So they hate her. At least she is intensely disliked.
     
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    When I was a high school senior, my goal was to get educated at Berkeley. I visited the campus department of Physics. I was so sad they turned me down later in a rejection letter to me. My IQ belonged at Berkeley in 1956.

    The truth is my grades in high school. Classes I loved and could engage in would be classes I got only As in. But high school is not set up for the very high IQ. It is set up for the modest IQ. The so called hard classes are what I got my A grades in. The so called easy courses bored me.

    I can't relate to the cost at Liberty U. Today I am not saying I can guess the true cost at Berkeley but I believe it to be over $80,000 for 4 years and perhaps $100,000 and it is a state university not a private university.

    Reagan for Governor I resisted as a voter. I voted for his opponent as Governor. I made a tragic mistake. I corrected it in 1980 by voting for the very successful President.
     
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    LOL...ok Robert, if you want to believe her that is fine. I do know especially there are proofs that she didn't care for Trump at all until he....won. Imagine that.

    Claim about what?

    Deflection amount to nothing. Please show me where/evidence that the NRA trained black people to defend themselves against the KKK. That is an asinine conclusion on her part yet nobody on the right called her out on such outrageous claim.[/QUOTE]

    W-O-W!! Owens can talk to the dead too??? :roll:

    Can you put the names to these fools??

    SPLC-Intelligence-Files-Groups-Brotherhood-of-Klans-1280x720_0.jpg

    LOL...ok...whatever you say. Showing that she is a fraud is considered as....hate? Brilliant.
     
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    I am very difficult to lead around by the nose by all democrats. None manage me.
    If you feel you did not get your kind of response, change your question to help me.

    No, I can't stop blaming the Dems. I can demonstrate them lying all the time. I will try to think of a lie told by republicans and you can help by naming one of your own choosing.

    Keep in mind that the public is not pleased with Congress. I would stop talking about the Trump rating to focus on the way Congress stinks were I a democrat. Join me in blasting congress.
     
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    I'm not doing such things only to have more deflections from you....like this response.

    Trump lied. Mexico won't be paying for a wall, and he won't be coming up with any big beautiful healthcare system soon. Two lies out of many but I know already you will deflect and defend.

    Are you blasting both sides? To date, I only see you blasting the dems.
     
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    W-O-W!! Owens can talk to the dead too??? :roll:



    LOL...ok...whatever you say. Showing that she is a fraud is considered as....hate? Brilliant.[/QUOTE]

    I believe she admits she was not a Trump fan prior to his election. She saw what he was actually doing and became his fan.

    Claim about what was not explained in your post. Does it matter and if you say yes, restate the claim?

    I know nothing about your claim reference the NRA. I simply told you what their mission is and what they accomplish.

    You did not cite her words by proving she said that. I saw only what you claim.

    Are you trying to say NRA screened out blacks so they could not shoot safely and well?

    She is very dismissive of the KKK.

    She points out the same thing i point out. While the KKK lynched a few thousand blacks, they also lynched over a thousand whites. I think 2 blacks to 1 white without looking it up again.

    I do not understand that quip about talking for the dead.

    You have not proven she is a fraud yet, But keep trying if you hate her that much.
     
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    W-O-W!! she is more intellectually dishonest (I'm being "generous" here) than I thought. Perhaps those whites were lynched trying to protect the blacks that were lynched. And she claimed to "know" about history. This is the person you admire? I just have to laugh. Good one.

    Oh...and about her comment about the NRA, here it is. Nobody can sound more dumb than she does in this video. And the hosts let her get away with it.

     
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    You accuse me but do not prove you are correct.

    Why am I not rushing back at you by accusing you?

    We post entirely different. i work for truth.

    Do you think Trump may have got them to pay for the wall had the Democrats ended their resistance? We know since his promise that Democrats have spent over 2 years devoted to blocking Trump. Mexico would be stupid to buy a wall Democrats hate so much.

    It is dumb to think Mexico would pay for a wall that Democrat simply do not want.

    I suspect had Democrats worked with Trump, together they may have persuaded Mexico to help a hell of a lot. Trump like all politicians makes campaign promises. Tell me do you recall failed promises that came from Obama?

    I do blast Democrats much more than I blast republicans in congress.

    1.Republicans owed america a quick end of Obama care. I have blamed John McCain plus Snowe and Murkowski for what they did to prevent it from landing on the trash heap of history. The house worked hard to end it. The damned Republicans in the Senate kept it living.
    2. I don't blast republicans on the wall though. I believe it will get built.
    3. Now that Pelosi commands the House, I know she never will allow the ACA to die.
    4. I have blamed Trump for keeping our armor force on Russia's border. I take armor seriously.

    Admit your joy that you see the wall as a Trump failure. Did you honestly want the wall?
     

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