Brave Man Takes Out Gunman

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  1. Well Bonded

    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really?

    Trump has made billions of dollars, he didn't become a billionaire, by loosing billions, are you that poor at math?
     
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    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    Essentially you are asking for a gun battle. When I was a kid, my dad regularly took me and my brothers shooting and I entered quite a few shooting contests. I am quite aware that most people aren't that good of a shot.

    In a mass shooting, with people running everywhere, a person with a gun is likely to miss the shooter. And where does that bullet go? If a shooter feels that pressure, will he not up his shooting in response? Say, in a club, there is a shooter. And then someone jumps in with a gun of his own, and then another? How is it decided who the bad guy is? When the SWAT team comes rushing in, anyone and everyone with a gun is a threat.

    A man with a gun thinks that he is invincible, a brave man knows his vulnerability but willingly takes the risk. This may be a bit hard for conservatives to understand, but liberals tends to think in terms of what is better for society, and not the conservative obsession with individual greed.
     
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    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    Did you miss the part where he inherited $413,000,000 from his father. Do you know why Dirty Dumb Dishonest Deranged Donald is fighting so hard to prevent his tax returns and other financial informational from being made public? He lied to you about his wealth.
     
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    No the criminal shooter asked for that, the armed citizen is only responding to that threat.

    Incorrect, the majority of those who carry concealed have way more training than road patrol officers.

    Didn't happen that way in Texas where the shooter was hit twice and died fleeing the scene.

    Maybe, maybe not, he may just realize it's time to flee and stay alive versus fight and die.

    And they know how to deal with such situation, disarm everyone who cooperates, take them into custody and sort it out.

    Bullcrap, that's just what progressive/liberal believe and project.

    Which is why training is key to survival.

    More progressive/liberal bullcrap.
     
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    Uh you are really bad at math eh, that's not a billion, it's not even half a billion.
     
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    Are we back to pretending that men with guns are invincible? The second man was off and running before the first hit the ground. Are you suggesting that the second man should have turned his gun onto a crowd of maybe twenty people? Especially when he was clearly in the wrong.
     
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    I'm saying your story is BS.

    Remember how I stated note the details.

    I noted the details you stated the men ran away being chased by a mob, I caught you in a lie, hence the reason you now added another lie to cover the first one.

    The men ran implies they left together and where being chased, now you have revised that to the one left was being chased by the mob, because the other one already fled.

    Want to try again to layer another lie upon the one you just got caught on?
     
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    You don’t seem to have a very good grasp of this subject. Couples splitting is not my premise. It’s a factor but not the major one. Here is a sample of reality if you are interested.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.br...crats-no-say-republicans-even-young-ones/amp/

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...970ccb04497_story.html?utm_term=.62ce34803d92

    https://www.independent.org/publications/tir/article.asp?id=35

    I really enjoy you bringing up programming all the time. It’s great evidence you are the one programmed when you can be so easily proven to be wrong. The increase in fatherless homes is a direct result of progressive ideas on sexuality, marriage, divorce, and subsidizing single motherhood. I don’t know how anyone can claim otherwise and expect to retain any credibility. Of course you are welcome to produce peer reviewed research to prove me wrong...

    https://www.investors.com/politics/...cratic-rule-ruined-some-of-our-finest-cities/

    Can you provide examples of cities destroyed or run into the ground by Republicans or conservatives? History seems to show the reverse. Detroit being a nice example. The state of California is an example in progress. There may be examples of ***t hole cities that purely democrat politicians made great. I’m open to the idea I just can’t think of any.

    I think your whole premise is wrong. Democrats are elected in most cities because those cities are full of people who are ok with living in an environment where crime and criminals are more prevalent on Per Capita basis than in rural areas. Cities are full of people who value wealth and possessions above their children’s well being as evidenced by higher victimization rates and higher rates of Autism Spectrum Disorders in urban areas. Democrats are elected by cities because they share the values and ideals of the majority of city residents.

    In short it seems silly to say republicans suck when really a lot of them just don’t have any desire to be part of the urban jungle. Or to be zoo keepers of those jungles. If we really value true diversity it seems odd to denigrate people who have different ideas of what constitutes a fulfilling life. I personally have experienced both lifestyles and prefer my current one. But I’m not going to say someone sucks because they want the things urban living offers.
     
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    Analogy time.

    French resistance wielding Liberator pistols against occupation Nazi forces possessing everything from small arms to armored divisions. The French were cowards.

    Marines on Iwo Jima. Cowards.

    Allied troops at Normandy 1944. Cowards.

    Stephan Willeford. Coward.

    Mark Dallas. Coward.

    There’s an old saying about there being a fine line between bravery and stupidity....
     
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    A for creativity. Sounds like a Steven Segal move, lol.
    So friend disarms one, throws gun in river and bad guy number 2 (still armed) runs away? :banana::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    you can be a bullet sponge if you want, but i don’t think you get to make that decision for somebody else.
     
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    He is not very good a making a fantasy, believable. Where I am from we call such malarkey "pissing in your face and calling it rain".
     
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    I'm not "invincible".... but I am alive today because I had a gun and knew how to use it. So there's that.
     
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    How many times did you shoot yourself?
     
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    Trump has never been a billionaire. That is just part of the hype.



    Were we not talking about a shooter in a public place? Why are you talking about military battles?

    Are you going to walk around with an automatic rifle slung over your shoulder, just in case a bad guy comes along? And what if you leave your gun at home and you encounter a bad guy? Cry and cower? Or are you going to man up?

    The Portland Police claim that a man 21 feet, or less, away, can reach a man with a gun, before the gunman can get a shot off. Two or three men, bum rushing a gunman, even if one gets shot, can stop a shooter in his tracks. As is what happened in Colorado a couple of weeks ago.

    The NRA plan of arming everyone to the teeth is insanity at it worse. Isn't there a statistic that says a gun owner is more likely to die from a gun shot, often by his/her own hand. The same insanity that drives conservatives to buy guns is the exact same insanity that drives inner city poor kids to buy guns. They have more opportunities to use theirs.
     
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    Some people choose not to be victims.
     
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    what is that even supposed to mean?
     
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    thugs buy/steal/obtain guns because you don’t bring a knife to a gunfight.
     
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    whoever would make that claim would be wrong. who is making that claim? names, please, specifically.
     
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    So what do you do. You are out with friends and relatives, or you are sitting at work, or at school, and a shooter enters, intent on causing as much harm as possible. You're not carrying your AK-47. What do you do? Do you cower and wait for your turn to die, or do you go down fighting? Every conservative seems to think the answer is more guns. Are you going to send your children to school with guns, just in case a bad guy shows up?
     
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    Sadly guns are very rarely used for justifiable homicide. In USA alone, 570,000 lives were lost to guns in this century Data
     
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    You live in a fantasy land. Nothing you are suggesting is even remotely logical.

    You are essentially arguing that 1 bad guy with a gun and a bunch if defenseless people is better than the gunman being confronted by someone who is carrying. Nothing supports this position. Also, when someone is trying to kill as many people as possible they're is no such thing as him 'upping his shooting response'. They are already trying to inflict maximum casualties.

    I've don't think i have anything else for you. Your statements are illogical, irrational, and not backed up by a shred of data.
     
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    Most child abusers are female.

    About 70% of nonreciprocal intimate partner violence is also by women.

    That is Toxic Masculinity.
     
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    The data is that guns are at least 30 times more frequently used in homicide then in justifiable homicide.
     

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