someone should create an anti gun policing force that gets rented by cities/states

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  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    You've refuted nothing . But you are hilarious.
     
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    I’ve refuted every “argument” you’ve made, and corrected many of your Incorrect statements. The most laughable was that you need a license to obtain or own a class 3 weapon. Lol
     
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    Why would you correct my correct statements. Is this another example of one of your corrections.....
    Burb.
     
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    It’s amusing you think pointing out a typo is a rebuttal to anything I said. Lol
     
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    Burp.
     
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    I accept your concession
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He does that every time he is cornered.
     
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    More ridiculous, nonsensical hyperbole devoid of fact, and unworthy of acknowledgement.
     
  9. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Did you have that memorized everytime you had no ligit response, or did yo mama write it up for you.
     
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    No, it's the response you get when you post empty hyperbole devoid of fact... which is all you have to offer, fatuus. Nothing you write - none of it - qualifies as legit.
     
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    Name one factually incorrect. The majority of opiate drug problem does come from persciption drugs then fueled by drugs from China. The influx of drugs from Mexico is less and comes over in the POEs. The fking wall does almost nothing but actually provide roads to and from the border in deserted areas and makes it worse. A billion dollar wall of steel is defeated by portable few hundred dollar “sawzall”
    You guys aren’t into manual labor are you ? Thought so.

    Meanwhile, American gun dealers are making millions shipping guns into Mexico fueling their crime rates, all legal on their part, illegal in Mexico....typical BS the nra supports and Trump is the stupidor who promotes the stupidity all along the border.
     
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    Citation needed.

    Straw purchases are illegal.
     
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    Totally false, FFL's are forbidden to ship guns out of the country, nor can they ship guns to non-FFL's in the the U.S.

    You are really lightly educated when it comes to the laws pertaining to firearms and your blind hatred of the NRA is quite clear.
     
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    The following statement on the part of yourself. Absolutely every last part of what was stated is devoid of anything resembling fact or legitimacy.

     
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    Then ultimately what is being advocated for on the part of yourself is nothing more than another system of tyranny where the rule of law is ultimately meaningless, where anyone and everyone can be killed without notice on the whims of government and possess no legal protections against such, and where the people will have no way of knowing whether or not they are actually committing a crime because the interpretation of what the law does and does not say is up to the whims of illegitimate judges who make things up as they go along. More individuals will be murdered by their own government in a given year under the system being proposed by yourself, than are being murdered presently with things as they currently are. The proposal on the part of yourself takes a bad situation and simply makes it worse for those that will be affected.

    There is nothing to yourself except aspirations of being a dictator who is willing to murder anyone and everyone to get what they want.
     
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    Sackeshi

    Here's an idea that you, being a up and coming dictator might like.

    Pass a law to have anyone who purports to eliminate, subrogates, or is willing to comprise the Constitution, shall be arrested and sent to prison for life, no trial, just off to prison forever?

    In addition, when considering their sentencing, if that person advocated eliminating or modifying more than one part of the Constitution, they shall be sentenced to death, no trial, just a firing squad?

    Are you willing to go along with that?

    It seems to fit and should dovetail right into your G*d complex mindset.[/QUOTE]
     
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    Every post you've made. The latest example:

    That's a lie, plain and simple; nothing but the political masturbation of the gun-hating left, and pushed by the murderous Obama administration to cover up their Fast and Furious debacle. It is horrifying in its dishonesty, composed by government complicit in the brutal murders of not only innocent Mexican citizens, but American law enforcement officers.

    People like you are likewise complicit in that travesty of Justice; your attempts to deflect blame notwithstanding.

    What is really offensive is that honest gun dealers tried to report obvious straw sales to the ATF, and the ATF ordered them to allow the sales to proceed as part of Fast and Furious or they would face severe legal consequences... and when the guns showed up at crime scenes in Mexico, or at the murder scenes such as that of US Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry, those dealers who had sought to do the right thing were slandered and denigrated as "rogue dealers facilitating the illegal gun trade in Mexico." It was all a lie concocted by the Obama Administration to feed violence in Mexico as a way to push restrictive gun laws in the United States, and people died because of it... and now you're carrying the water of those corrupt animals.

    You lose again, fatuus.
     
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    You don’t have one reference, just a lot of blowhardedness.
    Wrong again. Lax US gun laws have been arming Mexico drug cartels for years

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/01/donald-trump-mexico-visit-guns-drug-cartels-nra

    Trumps words when candidate.
    At a press conference with Donald Trump on Wednesday in Mexico City, President Enrique Peña Nieto said: “Every year, thousands of weapons and millions of US dollars in cash enter illegally into Mexico from the north, strengthening the cartels and other criminal organizations that create violence in Mexico.”
     
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    Exactly which firearm-related restrictions in the united states are actually facilitating the illegal trafficking of firearms into the nation of Mexico? Explain such.
     
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    Which is false as the drug cartels prefer fully automatic firearms which in the U.S. are limited in supply and are also very expensive, the majority of guns in the hands of the cartels are firearms stolen or bought from the Mexican military and while they may have been supplied to the Mexican military by the U.S. military, that has nothing to do with so called lax gun laws in the U.S.

    Someday you might want to get a clue, learn to do some actual research versus a copy and paste and then you just might cease making yourself appear to be so lightly informed.
     
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    Complete and utter bovine excrement. Do you EVER get tired of proving to be delusional and utterly disconnected from reality?

    The cartels can get select-fire, military grade fully automatic guns such as AK-47s for pennies on the dollar by simply acquiring them from all the South American entities equipped by the Soviets back in the day. The U.S. has provided aid and equipment for the Mexican military and police, and corrupt agents in those organizations take their weapons with them when they defect to the cartels, or they simply sell them to the cartels. There is literally ZERO reason for the cartels to pursue buying overpriced, semi-auto only weapons in the United States; all the political propaganda masquerading as "news" put forth by the state-run media notwithstanding.

    I was in the Border Patrol, remember? We never interdicted any weapon shipments heading south from the U.S.; though we did encounter coyotes and other smugglers armed with military-grade weapons such as Mexican standard HK G3s and Soviet-era AK's, just to name a few.
     
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    I spent a good part of the late 70’s/early 80’s working South of the border. Very few of those in the lower classes could afford any kind of firearm except perhaps aging single shot shotguns. However, the criminal groups had every kind of firearm you can imagine, often carrying (and selling) full auto weapons. At times, we had armed escorts, but I remember feeling they were under armed. I an my colleagues eventually armed ourselves from sources that provided full auto weapons that were likely from the various military stores south of the border, along with permits obtained by bribing the right people. These weapons were everything from M16’s, Russian/Chinese AK47s (best for the jungle areas I worked), M1 full auto carbines, Stens, M3s and even an MP40 carried by a friend. The best source for us was via the military and police, happy to supplement their meager pay. If you had money, a gun and permit was no great issue to acquire... the law was defined by who you knew and paid off.
     
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    Which the President of Mexico would never admit is happening on his watch, preferring to blame U.S. gun laws which the GCA's lap up like a thirsty, though in their case rabid dog.
     
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    There is a sort of etiquette when making a bribe/payoff... you never raise into question any hint of corruption (it’s a well understood sort of deniability). On the street, for a traffic violation, a bribe is made by asking if you can pay your fine directly to the officer to avoid the need to go to the district station to pay the fine (never argue with a cop there... that is considered a challenge to honor... you don’t get pulled over by an honorable cop if you’ve done nothing). With higher level matters, most things have delays you will be told. So, the euphemism used, is can you pay an ‘expedite fee’... which very often works. For guns, the euphemism is for ‘a special circumstance permit’ which, if given, is usually recognized by the local head of military in a sort of reciprocity, though if questioned, you simply ask if there is a local ‘extension fee’ for the permit.
    The rules are well known, never spoken of during the moment, and always referred to be a euphemism that allows a denial of corruption, honor to remain unchallenged, and is the understood, unspoken of, supplement to civil service compensation. (Not that different than here where politicians emerge from public service with net worth’s far in excess of the salaries they earn).
    So, that the President of Mexico would deny that kind of thing takes place... of course... it doesn’t; saying so is a direct challenge to his honor and integrity.
     
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    I don’t believe you, not a word.
     

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