The would be gun grabbers position all shot to hell

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  1. CourtJester

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    That is of course total nonsense. The biggest predictor of where you will end up financially is the financial status of the family you were born into. That is not to say that some people do suceed despite all odds but that is hardly a matter of just working hard.

    The fact that a larger and larger share of the total wealth continues to accrue at the top should give you some impetus to ponder why that continues to happen if sucess is only determined by how hard you work.

    Want an education as to just how the system is stacked visit a public school in a very poor district and then visit one in a rich community and notice the difference. Or even beyter visit a private school and then a public school and notice the difference in resources and the quality of education offered.
     
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    Quite incorrect, the majority of real mass shootings, not domestic arguments have occurred in gun free zones.
     
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    If they were gun free shootings would be impossible.
     
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    Funny isn't it how all cars now have seat belts and most people use them.
     
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    Bullcrap, in fact many who inherit large sums of money end up broke because they never learned the value of a dollar.

    A lot of that is the result of dependence on government which is financial slavery.

    Which is why charter schools are being promoted, they break the stranglehold the public educations Unions have on schools and the narrative they push down the throats of the student that attend public schools, schools that are stocked with children who come out of single parent families and are children who are not really interested in being educated.

    By the way, based on you inability to spell words properly I'm betting you attended a public school.
     
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    Now you are really being ignorant.
     
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    Ok, how do you shoot someone without having a gun?
     
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    Apparently you don't actually understand how charter schools work.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ents-they-want-idUSBRE91E0HF20130215?irpc=932

    And while you may be able to find a case or two of people who inherited great wealth and ended up broke that is a rare exception.
     
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    Are really that ignorant?

    Shooters pick gun free zones to carry out their crimes, they being criminals simply disregard the signs stating guns are forbidden in such places, but then what can I say progressive/liberals who push for more gun laws don't seem to understand criminals do not abide by such laws nullifying the reason for passing such.
     
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    So you point is there is absolutly no purpose in passing any laws?
     
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    I most certainly do and was a part of getting funding for more charter schools setup in Florida, what we see on a continuous basis is students attending charter schools have a much higher GPA then those who attend public schools, which is why I supported a bill that would include charter schools in local school funding grants, as bill that passed the Florida Legislature and has been signed into law.

    It happens more often than not, generally speaking old money gets wasted by the children of wealthy parents, the children didn't have to earn it but they sure as heck can burn through it.

    Conversely, children who come out of middle class families and are required to begin working at an early age, tend to become quite wealthy over their lifetimes.

    And that leads back to the primary reason for living in poverty or in debt paycheck to paycheck, a non existent or poor work ethic, feeling one is a victim, zero money management skills and a desire to have every new toy around leading to impulse purchasing and buying on debt.
     
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    Nice liberal try, but it doesn't work that way, laws which include punishments will deter honest people from taking a chance therefore lowering crime.

    By the way you need to learn how to spell.
     
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    Its not the only example.

    See Columbine et alia
     
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    Cite the examples of mass shootings that did not occur in locations that restrict legal firearms ownership or possession.
     
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    Many do not. Just as many simply refuse to operate a motor vehicle in a safe manner, because they are too busy being intoxicated or distracted by their phone. The fact there has been a significant increase in individuals who are texting while operating a motor vehicle demonstrates the fact that laws do not have the ability to modify behavior.
     
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    Firearms will always be present, and remain a part of the equation. Such is never going to change, anymore than eliminating all form of physical illness.
     
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    But, it illustrates an obvious point. Mass shootings don’t happen at police stations... wonder why? Nor, do they predominate in places where there is a high percentage people that might be armed. Extremely few mass shooters continue their onslaught once engaged, and even when not wounded, by an armed response by anyone.
     
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    That must be how we've eliminated drug use in the United States (insert sarcastic eyeroll emoji here).

    The Aurora shooter actually bypassed a number of theaters closer to his home before selecting the one theater that had prominent "gun free zone" signs as the target for his attack.
     
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    https://www.politifact.com/florida/...do-most-mass-shootings-happen-gun-free-zones/
     
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    And what they did was include domestic violence shootings into those numbers and while they meet the FBI's requirement of a mass shooting (3 people) they are not what real mass shootings actually are such as what they depicted in the photo that accompanied the article.

    But believe the number crunched bull crap if you wish, but don't lie that real mass shootings, the kind that get lots of media attention are not in gun free zones, of which most have been..
     
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    Yes, proving the obvious again: Gun Free Zones = Killing Zones.
     
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    Guns can are easily manufactured by 10 year olds around the world whenever there is a shortage.
    Guns are not rocket science. Surely you know that.
     
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    One assumes you are talking single shot zip guns. Calling making those manufacturing is rather laughable.
     
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    Not really, a fully automatic MAC-10 9mm can be built in a lightly equipped machine shop for about $150, or build a MAC-11 .380 for about the same price, add an oil filter from NAPA and have a suppressed machine gun.

    And since you are not all that educated in firearms, suppressed means the oil filter becomes a silencer.
     
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    I’ve made those when I was young, but I also made a Sten MKII from scratch when I was 14... that still exists.
    BTW, making a zip gun that works without becoming a Darwin stat takes some knowledge.
     
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