Cracks in the dike are beginning to form.....and the truth is seeping out.

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Confidential draft IRS memo says tax returns must be given to Congress unless president invokes executive privilege

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...fc796cf2ec0_story.html?utm_term=.7e4eb141be58

    A confidential Internal Revenue Service legal memo says tax returns must be given to Congress unless the president takes the rare step of asserting executive privilege, according to a copy of the memo obtained by The Washington Post.

    The memo contradicts the Trump administration’s justification for denying lawmakers’ request for President Trump’s tax returns, exposing fissures in the executive branch.

    Trump has refused to turn over his tax returns but has not invoked executive privilege. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin has instead denied the returns by arguing there is no legislative purpose for demanding them.

    But according to the IRS memo, which has not been previously reported, the disclosure of tax returns to the committee “is mandatory, requiring the Secretary to disclose returns, and return information, requested by the tax-writing Chairs.”

    “[T]he Secretary’s obligation to disclose return and return information would not be affected by the failure of a tax writing committee . . . to state a reason for the request,” it says.
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    Bottom line, this lawless admin is twisting itself inside out to find pretenses for defending the Orange Turd's impulses to break the law.

    What continues to amaze me is the willingness of so many people to participate in the perversion of justice Don constantly seeks to keep his potential illegalities from sight.

    How much longer will members of the admin and the GOP generally disgrace themselves and their country by acting this way?
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    After the last election, I thought that we would see Trump spiral out of control. But instead he seems to be acting more like a cornered rat. I'm eagerly waiting to see his financial records.
     
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    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just want to second your thoughts about the people who continue to support this abomination, Lee, by participating in the perversion of our justice system.

    They should be shouting "Sieg Heil" while doing it.
     
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    Wait, so the dike is cracking now? What happened to the walls? Are they still closing is? Are the cracks appearing in the walls of the the dike that are closing in? What about the noose that was tightening on the beginning of Trump's end?

    How many metaphors do we need before Trump get unpeached?
     
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    Amash carefully looked at his family's manufacturing portfolio and realized his interests were better served by supporting China as a foreign agent than in supporting the US.

    The walls are closing in.
     
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    Trying to play offense when your team is clearly on defense looks stupid. These Democrats are beginning to eat each other alive. Yes, there are cracks, but it's coming from the Humpty Dumpty side? They are now like caged rats and very dangerous.Your team is in deep trouble bordering on treason and you want to talk tax returns??? How out of touch with reality are you people? It's scary just how fast the Democrats are spiraling out of control. We have a MAJOR crisis at the border and you want to play partisan politics with the American people? A sane person today who is a Democrat HAS to be looking at them as crazytown clowns. They don't want to help Americans, they only want power to become a dictatorship and tell people what they can and cannot do and what they're allowed to believe and think. They are acting like Hitler part 2 and no one liked part 1. These are SCARY times and the people on here who are defending this garbage are even scarier...go get deprogrammed. Don't you see how over-the-top Democrats are on everything? They are angy, bitter, crazy and need bigtime HELP.
     
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    Is this the "beginning of the end" for the billionth time?
     
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    Remember when you were eagerly waiting to see the Mueller report? Remember that?

    That was awesome.
     
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    The dem clown show wants PAST IRS information when impeachment applies to actions while in office. What this shows is that the dem clown show did not think Obama's IRS was doing it's job which I find hilarious.
     
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    It is the left and the Democratic party perverting the criminal justice system. This whole investigation is now and has been a perversion from the very beginning. And your laughable attempt to associate those of us who believe in fair play with Nazis while goose stepping along with the anti Trump brigade is both risible and hypocritical.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It was predictable that a reality TV ass clown who brought fellow ass clowns to DC would oversee chaotic, incompetent governance of the country. Making Prince Jared the Middle East czar told us every we needed to know though it only begins to display just how unprepared and unfit the Orange Turd is to be prez.
    But I underestimated the degree of unethical, immoral, illegal behavior he would engage in. And I certainly didn't see him making these bizarre claims of privilege to block Congress' oversight role.
    What totally blindsided me is how willing so many Repubs would be in the complicity with which they are aiding his efforts. The few voices of dissent, Flake, Corker, and McCain (before he passed away) have been silenced. Drummed out of office by the angry, ignorant mob who demand total devotion to Dear Leader or face their wrath.
     
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    Nice revisionist history.

    You know damned well you predicted Trump's presidency would be economic ruination and warmongering bloodshed on a massive scale right from the get go.

    And now you're making "unethical, immoral, and illegal" mountains out of nonsensical molehills because you were wrong, and you can't accept the simple truth of it.
     
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    "Cracks in the dike are beginning to form..."
    Why are you so homophobic with this type of foul language towards the LGBTAAQIP+ community?
     
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    Lee is busy talking to him/her/alphabet's self again. Stop posting WaPo stories that require us to pay to read, Posting Spam is against the forum rules.
     
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    Trump is going to win reelection.
     
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    Dont hold your breath
     
  19. Lee Atwater

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    Try to concentrate. The matter at hand is President Stonewall's lame justification for not turning over his tax documents. The IRS memo states........."The 10-page document says the law “does not allow the Secretary to exercise discretion in disclosing the information provided the statutory conditions are met” and directly rejects the reason Mnuchin has cited for withholding the information."

    What happened since that memo was drafted is the folks I mentioned.......those complicit in helping Crooked Donald.........have manufactured a rationale for refusing a legal request for the returns by the Ways and Means Committee. Team Turd has tried and failed to suggest there is ambiguity in the law. There isn't.
     
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    Crackpot.
     
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    A "draft" memo? hahahahah

    oh well...who cares...he'll claim executive priv and stop the entire thing. You lose again
     
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    Pfft. Don't care.

    Three years of this sniveling. Don't care anymore.

    You lost credibility over a thousand "the walls are closing ins" ago.
     
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    At least your headline is right, but you failed to see the right cracks and leaks; the ones that prove the whole witch-hunt was a dem/Clinton conspircacy supported by people in the Obama administration. Now that one is going to destroy any cred the dems have left- which is not that much among rational people.

    Trump-hate is like a pig wallow for some; they just have to roll in it everyday- and it's nasty because it's made up mostly of their own excretions, turning soil into mud to glory in. Disgusting pre-occupation.
     
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    Congress needs to rethink its strategy. The White House has and will continue to block every subpoena and claim executive privilege at alarming rates. The Mueller Report, far from an exoneration, should have laid waste to the foundation, it didn't. Congress, on both sides is intellectually lazy or obtuse. Nobody, it seems, has actually read the report so now, it must go on the public stage to garner the attention it deserves. This will be Congress' goal, go public and a big way.

    My conservative party, once the GOP, has corrupted itself over the years and now stands as a horrible example of corruption in government. The stonewalling by the President, cabinet, lawyers, and the GOP Senate is a massive attempt to subvert the law and obstruct justice. Even the Nixon administration never touched this level of misconduct. It appears Congress' next step will subpoena second and third level players and jail them for noncompliance. Then work their way up the chain. We'll see what happens in the next few weeks.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Assuming the intellectual equivalent of a fetal position due to your inability to mount a defense doesn't surprise me.
     
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