BREAKING: Robert Mueller is speaking right now, for the first time since the report was released

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  1. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I wish HuffPo would put up a little graph that showed "Chances of Impeachment: 98%" or something fun.
     
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    9.8 million more voters chose a Democrat for the House than chose a Republican for the House.

    They did so in significant part because they wanted someone to conduct oversight of Trump.
     
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    My party has the ability to impeach SPECIFICALLY because of the 2018 midterms.

    But you acknowledge the reason why Democrats in the House have every reason to slow roll the investigations and to slow roll an impeachment proceeding.
     
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    Exactly.... well said!
     
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    He using Russian assistance?
     
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    The FBI and DOJ are now not part of the executive branch. Who knew.
     
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    The only way he's not exonerated is if he's charged after he leaves office. The quickest way to do it is impeach him, so have at it what are you wasting your time on Dems. You're all freaking talk if not and if you do then the voters will decide if your actions are warranted in 2020.
     
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    That calls for the operation of the mind. You are not qualified to speak for them.
     
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    You are effectively trying to argue that obstruction did not occur because trump could have taken a more direct line to obstruct the investigation.

    That is a terrible argument.
     
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    They are. That’s sort of the point here.
     
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    Says the guy arguing about obstructing a guy he didn't fire.
     
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    He is not refusing to testify on the ground of self-incrimination, so no, he is not going to "plead the 5th." He would just answer the question by saying, "my report addresses that question and I encourage you to read the report."
     
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    The difference is, is that Starr, and some of those other crack Republican operatives, such as crybaby Kavanaugh, went snooping around trying to discover where Clinton's penis had been purposely trying to find anything they could get him on. They couldn't make up anything credible over the Whitewater deal or Vince Foster's suicide, so they tried to prop us Paula Jones, who had no credibility. So what did they get Clinton for? Lying about getting a hummer or two. It was clearly Republican dirty tricks at play as Clinton's popularity remained in the 60%s.

    Mueller is a Republican who investigated a Republican president, under the direction of a Republican deputy Attorney General.
     
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    I enjoy you trying to make that a thing.
     
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    Ok Fact he didn't fire Rosenstein, and Fact he didn't fire McGahn based on this supposed demand therefore the conclusion is pretty dang obvious to anyone that's not a partisan hack.
     
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    Yes, he could have done that, although it still would have been likely illegal without proper cause, which they clearly didn't have...

    Saturday Night Massacre #2....

    But thanks for the laugh... Acting is the only way Giuliani would see those 2 letters in front of his name...

    As to your other point, not at all.... You are all hung up on the process like that other dude... it's not the point... Trump directed the removal of the SC after being informed there were no valid grounds to do so... He didn't care how it was done or who did it (or obviously why)....
     
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    No, it was not! Liberal MSM made it look like Mueller's investigation was about Trump.
     
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    Its time to investigate Barr and the Russians for covering up Mueller and the Russians for covering up Trump and the Russians for covering up the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, and the Grinch and the Russians. No waste of time is more important in this 'liberal, nut-job' effort!!!

     
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    Yes, the obvious conclusion is that Trump couldn't get anybody to do this job, but that doesn't change the fact that he endeavored to have it done, which would have obstructed the investigation (even if probably not for a super long time).
     
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    So, just go hunting for crimes, because if you dig deep enough, you'll find something, eh? You understand you need evidence first or at least some sort of proof he did something wrong. Because by those standards, why not investigate everyone in Congress for what you think they did, because you're bound to nail 9/10 of them for crimes. But I'm sure, you only want to go after the "bad" ones=)

    That's called a witch hunt. Decide she's a witch first, then prove she's a witch after the fact=)
     
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    Yes, it appears that's exactly what McGahn refused to do. He wouldn't convey Trump's desire to have Mueller's conflicts reviewed by Rosenstein. Looks like McGahn was obstructing the president. Then a couple weeks after McGahn refused, Rosenstein settled the matter for Trump during a committee hearing. https://thehill.com/policy/national...isqualifying-conflict-of-interest-for-mueller That makes the McGahn obstruction meme seem even more ridiculous.
     
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    Actually, most of that came from Trump, because everything MUST be about him.... He was the center of the web as everybody was connected to him in some way, but even Mueller's original directive says "members of Trump campaign".. That may, or may not, include the candidate himself.

    And WTF are you doing listening to the MSM anyway??
     
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    The Democrats owe us at least 7 more investigations on Hillary to match what they did to Trump.
     
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    And Hillary had other people destroy a bunch of emails and devices that would have proven her crimes, but since she didn't personally intend to delete or destroy anything herself, they said..."Ok, you're free to go...." So you agree, Trump can't be charged with doing anything wrong, because he didn't actually do anything wrong?
     
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    That's exactly what it was about. It was always about taking down the POTUS.

    The entire reason behind the Mueller investigation was fabricated by the people doing the investigating.
     
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