BREAKING: Robert Mueller is speaking right now, for the first time since the report was released

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    obstruction for one

    but we may find money laundering too based on the recent leaks, who knows what dirt Trump still has out there
     
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    Actually, that was Obama.

    Or did you forget?

    I dont have any concern for Russian interference because it was nothing more than making Facebook memes. Nobody voted for Trump because of that.

    They voted for Trump because they're tired of politicians and Hillary was the absolute worst candidate imaginable.

    Blame the DNC.
     
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    Then you'd have Hillary Clinton, who can't even resist gravity, let alone run a country.

    P.S.

    You gonna show me "corrupt intent" or keep hiding?
     
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    It was in effect which is why they held prosecution until he left office.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes let's investigate people we don't like to see if maybe they committed a crime.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did he have the evidence to indict him.
     
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    Republicans voting for him and his winning the election is not the whole mess, the whole mess is the attempts by the Clinton campaign, the DNC and high level officials at the FBI and DOJ in their concerted attempts to smear Trump and then remove him from office on bogus charges that committed the whole mess. Had they just admitted they lost the election, it was not because of anything Russia did and then spent time figuring out what it will take to win the next election we would not be where we are.
     
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    Either you misread my post or you're propping up a strawman.
     
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    What does “saying something to the press” have to do with it. Trump tried to pressure McGahn into lying about the incident, and tried to get him to lie to the press regarding obstruction of justice. Period.
     
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    Option C.
     
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    That's not what McGahn told the Mueller team.
     
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    Wrong again. "Trumpsters" who ever that is and conservatives and those of rational minds said "so what is new with that" Russia has tried to interfere with our elections and elections around the world since WWII ended. What the investigations found was that is was no ineffective as to be laughable and it did not change the outcome of the election. The Russian collusion through the DNC and Clinton campaign and corrupt high level officials has been FAR more effective and leading the Democrats and leftist by the nose into a bogus impeachment attempt.
     
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    It just equates you to Donald Trump's level. I wish Nancy Pelosi were actually serious with her "he's just not worth it", and enabled the House to proceed as a normal house. Her speakership has rendered government useless. Just like in 2010, she's incapable of being House speaker.
     
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    He could have had the indictment he just could not prosecute it until Trump was out of office. Else in the future if a President murders his wife he gets away with it. And if he had even a suspicion Trump committed a crime he had a duty to report it to the AG and then to the Congress, he did not.
     
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    Ah... well, we are both a little wrong... you said indictment hearings, and I read indictment, which much be post presidency.

    So you want to impeach after he loses the election?? Interesting theory.

    Seems REAL mean, so if it's what you say, I love it....
     
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    firing Mueller would not have been obstructing justice

    In the end, if the truth is allowed to come out, it will be seen that an investigation was conducted into many people looking for crimes. There was no crime committed to warrant the initial investigation.

    Whether you like Trump or hate him, what was done to him and other US citizens should scare everyone.
     
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    Like this was not just another attempt to SPIN the facts so the American people would allow impeachment. Let's not forget Mueller has been part of this COUP from the very beginning. He, Jim Comey, and Rosenstein pushed Jeff Sessions out of the way so they could go after Trump. If they EVER get to the
    bottom of all their corruption and start connecting the dots, they'll find Mueller was in up to his neck.

    The fact he wasn't able to clearly prove either charge after two years should speak volumes to those intelligent enough to distinguish between the truth and corrupt politicians trying to spin for political purposes.

    Remember, the democrats are DESPERATE to get Trump out because they fear they can't beat him in 2020. Also given the fact all the evidence will be coming out shortly against them, they needed to get ahead of that and deflect everyone's attention onto Trump because that's what they always do.
     
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    :applause:
     
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    This is idiotic nonsense. But it is a game the Trump White House has tried to play since Devin Nunes ran to the White House in the middle of the night,

    And this has nothing to do with the outcome of the election. Investigations into Russian interference would have been a first order of business in a Clinton Administration. Matters which the Trump Administration and the GOP Congress still refuse to discuss.

    You can’t smear Donald Trump. Trump is the most reprehensible excuse for a human being ever to even run for President., He has no character, no integrity, no loyalty and no sense of duty, You can’t smear someone whose own conduct smears himself.

    And no, no decent American should be willing to overlook Russian interference, or to excuse the willful and enthusiastic attempts by the Trump campaign to collude in the effort, either,.

    There is no question that these things happened. They are well documented. And attested to by many of the participants.

    I was not surprised to see many Trumpster loudly boast that they would NOT read the Mueller Report. Similarly, I was not surprised when some Trumpsters announced that they would reject anything Mueller said before he even spoke.

    It was disappointing to see the GOP Senate leadership reject the idea of convicting on impeachment even before a public presentation of the facts. Disappointing, but not surprising.
     
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    The only desperate people are the ones peddling this nonsensical and fact free narrative.
     
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    Trump's actions are the problem
     
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    Yes, and you can call that a political wrong. It's not a criminal wrong and had no business being in the report. It was in the report, because the case is that flimsy. Mueller cited that opinion, because he had NO intention of taking this to court.

    Mueller's cowardice and behavior is not lost on me. He's silent for two years, then reads his report in a controlled setting for 9 minutes. This is who he is. He even refutes the democrats attempt for a subponea. You can't bemirch Trump's character, and ignore Mueller's own shortcomings.

    Even the 1,000 prosecutors who say they would've indicted, basically have better character. They put their name to the charge. Mueller ran and hid.
     
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    there is plenty of reasons to investigate, the most recent being the leak about his bank not reporting the money launder flags on his account

    may be nothing, but it should still be investigated, it would be if it was you or me and that came out - we are talking about the President here, Obstruction may only be the tip of the iceberg, we do not know what all else will come out

    Benghazi was investigated how many times? and that was obviously a terrorist attack and not Hillary's doing
     
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    Right.

    That's a lot bigger than selling guns to Mexican drug cartels and getting our people killed with them.

    Are we also investigating the illegal leak or no.
     
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