The Party with No Ideas

Neocons never have I agree and they've been running the party for years now. The Tea Party have repeatedly done so, unfortunately the unholy alliance between the Dems and the Neocons has consistently over ridden there attempts until now

 

If you spend more than you take in it doesn't matter what the tax rate is. And if you set it too high you actually get less money and lose GDP growth which is the chief determiner of tax revenue gains year over year.

 

Thank you Captain Obvious...

 

The Kansas Experiment was a complete failure - and that was a Tea Party show. Sorry, roses do not grow from conservative butts when it comes to the economy.

 

I have to disagree, the DNC has many ideas....they just all lead to poverty, hunger, enslavement and death....just look at Cuba, Venezula, USSR, and the great Khmer Rouge

 

Wrong. Kansas was very nearly a complete failure before the Tea party. It is a state sorely lacking in heavy industry whose back bone is Agriculture and it's been that way for decades. It is now better than it was before while no great shakes it is doing as well as most states of comparable means. Meanwhile California is coming apart at the seams.

 

Kansas is doing better because it abandoned Tea Party rhetoric. And California has a $20 billion dollar surplus in their budget this year - I guess if that's "coming apart at the seams" then Kansas would love to be "coming apart at the seams".

 

Only because it abandoned that high speed rail nonsense. And that surplus will be quite short lived the pols are already trying to figure out what to spend it on.

 

if the key to raising the standard of the lower and middle classes was simply to give the richest of us tax breaks, there would be no lower or middle class left since this tactic has been sold to us since Reagan. The cost of capital is virtually nothing in real interest rate terms. But interest rates are not the only way capital charges for its use in business. The real money is in using capital to take ownership of the company, profits and power. Ask any founder of a startup what the terms of that loan are and they will tell you, it cost them their company.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/patric...-finances-are-not-back-in-black/#2f44e12c37b5

"The surplus figure cited by Frank and others has two problems: it’s both misleading and paints an incomplete picture of the Golden State’s finances. The truth is that there is no revenue surplus had by California state government. In fact, the state’s long-run obligations far exceed projected revenue collections to the tune of $1 trillion in unfunded pension liabilitiesalone. When factoring in the cost of non-pension benefits for state workers, such as health care for retired government employees, the debt facing California taxpayers rises further. '

"“Combining California’s debt with publicly held federal debt, we estimate a total debt-to-GDP ratio of 125% (or 153% using the broader definition of federal debt),” California Policy Center report released in 2017 points out. “This level places California distressingly close to peripheral Eurozone countries that faced financial crises in 2011 and 2012. Portugal’s 2015 debt-to-GDP ratio was 129% and Italy’s was 133%.”

----NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR CALI, NOT AT ALL

 

But you stated that California was "coming apart at the seams". Now your tune has changed. So who is in better economic position? California with it's current $20 billion surplus, or Kansas with it's current $1.4 billion dollar deficit? Ain't rocket science, dude.

 

If you're going to factor in the Federal debt, as you have just done, then EVERY state is in deep ****.

 

Not really....not every state has the massive debt Cali has...and massive unfunded liabilites

 

Nor do they have income stream that California has to deal with that debt. California generates 14.5% of the nation's total GDP. Kansas generates .8%.

 

and Cali still can't control it's debt

 

And Republican controlled Kansas can't even control it's debt with a decent national economy.
And the Republican controlled Federal Government is still racking up $1 trillion plus deficits.

Roses do not grow from conservative butts when it comes to deficit spending.

 

The GOP doesn't control the Federal Govt, there is a split between Congress.

Kansas and the Federal Govt aren't headed towards Greece, Cali is.

 

Tea Party? What did they reduce?
They are pretty much gone, a few left but they never did much of nothing.

Until now? What have they reduced?

But I phrased it as 'ever'. As, did Reagan, or any R prez or congress ever reduce the size of gov't?

 

It isn't indeed, California, Raw sewage in the streets, tent cities amid the sky scrapers, more homeless folks as per capita than any other state in the union, unaffordable housing, companies and individuals fleeing the high taxes and unbelievable housing costs. Kansas none of the above.

 

Freedom Caucus equals tea party, it is the Neocons that largely took it on the chin last election.

 

Still haven't answered the question.
When have the R's EVER reduced gov't. That means in our USA history.

 

That would be under Coolidge...

 

Everyone is making more money.

 

There's more than enough affordable housing in California as there's more than enough water in California.

BUT NOT FOR 40 MILLION PEOPLE !!!

So why do the Democrats in Sacramento still have the welcome mat out at the border ???

 

Only way leftist hang on to power.