John Boehner on 'Trump party': 'The Republican Party is kind of taking a nap somewhere'

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  1. Lil Mike

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    What's the reason?
     
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    The republicans are not the ones silencing and suppressing opposing views. This is typical democrat projection, and is exactly what they have been doing for years.

    Equality of outcome, which is the democrat's big push that unites their minority groups, is inherently not fair. Democrats are every bit as owned by big business as the republicans, its just different big business (Hollywood and big tech.) The republican party today has moved left, swallowing those disenfranchised as democrats move to the left. I don't know what you consider extremism on the right, but you have either been misinformed or lied to about what that is and how prevalent it actually is. Personally, I'm more worried about the left's extremism which is both harder to identify and more socially acceptable somehow.
     
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    That's laughable considering that the Dems have had little or no power for years.

    No doubt you are talking about Democrats and Republicans, not democrats and republicans. In that case I agree.

    LOL!!! THAT is RIDICULOUS! The Republicans are MORE devoted to the corporate elite and take their greater campaign contributions, and now are much closer to embracing totalitarianism while the Democrats move the opposite way!

    [/QUOTE] .... swallowing those disenfranchised as democrats move to the left. I don't know what you consider extremism on the right, but you have either been misinformed or lied to about what that is and how prevalent it actually is. Personally, I'm more worried about the left's extremism which is both harder to identify and more socially acceptable somehow.[/QUOTE]
    The reason you don't see the extremism of the right is because those who are on the right think extremism (one-party rule, corporate participation in government, elimination of as much tax expense for the rich as possible, shifting more tax burden onto the public, elimination of programs benefiting the needy, ending abortion) is the way to go, and you are on the right, ... correct?

    The left's "extremism" is, by definition, a greater dedication to advancing social benefits and regulating the excesses of capitalism as part of that dedication.
     
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    The gentleman on my signature line expressed his disdain for the "new" Republican party during a 1980's GOP convention. The entire Bush family's expressed real concern over the evolution of the Trump Party is well known. Boehner literally walked out of the GOP because he was totally annoyed with the two called freedom party's inability to compromise. Hell, they'd vote against a bill they agreed to the day before. Nobody can deal with that.

    Trump has reached rock bottom as a human being, much less a president. I've wiped better stuff off my shoe.
     
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    Goldwater would not have found much good about the Conservative party in general - he hated the Religious Right - and it was those clowns that took over the party.
     
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    Tis true Tis true - The Left hates Classical Liberalism and the Right hates Republicanism.

    Sad Sad state of the nation.
     
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    This is a joke and simply not true. The republican platform is small government which is both a boon to capitalism and in direct opposition to a totalitarian stance. Democrats on the other hand move increasingly toward socialism and large government. Combine this with the culture of shutting down conservative voices and opinions and you have a bridge to corruption.

    That is not extremism, nor is it anything but misinformed. I doubt anyone involved or knowledgeable about American politics has any conviction that there will ever be one-party rule and if you think they do then you've been spoon fed some BS propaganda. The left is influenced by corporate entities just as much as the right. Shifting the tax burden onto the public? What world do you live in? The vast majority of Americans tax burden went down, rich and poor alike. Programs benefiting the needy also benefit the greedy, this is just truth. The best thing you can do for a poor man is find him a job he can excel at and democrats don't seem to think people should have to bother with annoying things like responsibility or consequences. Abortion is evil pure and simple, but I am for small government and believe that each state should be able to make that decision for their own people.

    No, that is the platform of the left, extremism would be flipping the script of historical social injustices (the wealthy give everything to the poor, white men are discriminated against, men are marginalized, etc.) and destroying capitalism.
     
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    There's essentially no Republican party in California. Even Orange county has voted majority Democrat in the past 2 elections. The state GOP faces near total elimination while Trump is president and acknowledge that it may take a "generation or two" to resurface here.
     
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    'Always accuse your opponent of what you are doing.'

    -some commie
     
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    Republicans have always gone their own way. It is the Democrats that have always been Sheeple. Voting as the Leaders want them to. So sad. I wish neither party existed and the amount that could be spent on a campaign was a set amount, taking excessive contributions and wealth out of the mix. But the Supreme Court voted down set Campaign expenditures.

    I am really not a Democrat or Republican or even a Libratarian: I am a Centrist. One that looks at each issue logically.

    So when it comes to illegals or those seeking asylum that don't qualify; I favor turning them back. Regardless if they set foot in our Country. And I think Sanctuary Cities are unconstitutional. One city should not be allowed to ignore Federal law. And one Federal judge should not be able to strike down an action by the President. Stupid. If that is allowed then why can't a Federal Judge in another State make an opposite decision.

    Our legal system is anything but fair. These days you are guilty until you prove your innocence. And that will cost you thousands of dollars to defend yourself Against City, County, State and Federal prosecutors paid by us.I

    That is why so many take plea bargains. Eve when they are not guilty.

    We spend too much on worthless rehab programs that are suppose to help the addicted. Most dont. And putting these individuals on probation and regular drug testing, charging them hundreds of dollars a month that they can't pay because it is very hard to get a job under these conditions, especially if your drivers license is revolked. An addicted person, addicted to prescription drugs, so loyal and the like is not capable of stopping the addiction overnight. So to put them on probation and drug testing is going to likely lead to failure. These programs make money for the Country or State, but nothing to help the addicted individual.

    The left doesn't want illegals incarcerated, but they have no problem putting citizens in jail for non-violent crimes. If we were not spending money taking care of asylum seekers and illegals, maybe we could provide health care for our Citizens.
     
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    Technically true, but as a whole, the Republican Party is feckless and unwilling to fight back against the leftist lunatics.
     
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    A truer post has never been written.

    That's why Trump has a loyal following. He's the first Republican in Washington since Reagan that didn't cave to the radical left. And the left hates him for it.
     
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    The GOP has massive majority in the senate, the oval, the majority of state houses and Gov mansions. It’s why we have a booming economy and record low unemployment. You are welcome
     
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    The Bush's weren't thrilled with Reagan either, Reagan only picked Bush as VP to appease the RINO wing.

    I'm sure he would say the same of you.
     
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    Yup, he's the first GOP POTUS to fight back and win against the corrupt media/Democratic complex as he's done the last two years.
     
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    You would have to ask them.
    But I say, they believe party over country.

    How many times have you voted D?
     
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    The republican party still exists. But there is no conservative party. There is only the trump party.

    That means the country is driven by the Adrenalin rushes his minions get when he tweets his insanity or calls some woman fat.
     
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    I don't think he is right. I think that it's good to have someone inbthe white house who isn't afraid to make people mad. I wish we had someone with some morals as well but that certainly doesn't describe anyone in the democratic party either.
    The long and short of it is better a lying adulterer. Than even a moderate socialist.

    I'd rather overlook obstruction of justice than support abortion, and extreme violations of the first and second amendments to the constitution.
    Nearly anyone is better than any of the Democrats.
     
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    I loved Reagan. I campaigned for Reagan. And he would see trump as the repulsive little narcissist that he is.
     
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    Or this classic from 1980!

     
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    Excellent post. It's brief message is so important, so truthful, and undeniable.
     
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    I checked and it appears that there are disparate reports on the amount of Republicans in California. One report I saw said 23% of registered voters in the state are GOP, another said 30%. Both agree they are now the minority in the state. This should come as no surprise since it is that party which brings up the debt, reduces essential services, and impairs the quality of life. Consider Orange county which started the infamous taxpayer revolt - they refused to pay their taxes on the grounds that it was, somehow, injurious to the people. But once they stopped paying all essential services were reduced and the county went bankrupt! Then, as always, they went with hat in hand begging for taxpayer handouts to bail them out. Ultimately, the taxpayers had to pay the taxes they refused to pay.

    As always, the right wing continually insists that reducing taxes is, somehow, a magic formula that cures all social ails. Even though this has been proven to be a baseless myth, righties continue to believe in it and continue to push for more tax reduction. Then, when the social problems re-emerge, again the Democrats get blamed for the problems created by Republicans.
     
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    He isn't the one calling Sarah Sanders fat.
     
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    On the national level, none. On the state and local a few.

    But the vast majority of my presidential votes have been for a non D or R candidate. But that's not the point. If you are saying that people are voting for one of the two major parties, then they are freely making that choice. People have choices, you just don't like them.
     

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