TANF welfare funds diverted to fund christian causes.

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    The direction of causation is likely the other direction from what you think. A state like Mississippi doesn't have the money to be spending on liberal things.

    To a liberal, there's an endless supply of money to spend.
    Obviously something that does not exist in Mississippi. The whole Mississippi Delta region is kind of poor, it's not just one state.
     
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    The care and well being of the citizens not being important to Mississippi is what you are saying.Money and aid specifically targeted to the poor and indigent should go to them and not funding fake Christian right wing causes.
     
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    Sounds like it’s being spent properly to insure that needy families don’t multiply
     
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    What percentage of total welfare funds is TANF? 5% maybe ten? How many people even knew it existed before you posted this?
     
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    It is our primary welfare program to assist the poor and it is being diverted to fake right wing religious causes and organizations in other words GRAFT!!
     
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    Prior to that it had been held by Democrats for 180 years. It takes a while to undo that much damage.
    Sorry no it isn't not even close. That would be the food stamp program and public housing TANF is miniscule in comparison to either.
     
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    Since the current TANF legislation was passed in 1996 governors and state legislatures have become increasingly creative in funding state pet projects with funds meant to help uplift the poorest in our society.It is wide spread abuse occurring in most states.People curse all the money being spent on the poor when 8n fact it is not.The funds are appropriated by congress to aid the poor but then they are miss appropriated by the states to fund everything but the aid to the poor.
     
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    Increasingly yes, I know many left wing Christians who have left their Churches in disgust recently. Catholics in particular are fed up with how the priests rail against abortion and say nothing about clergy who rape little boys.
     
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    Sorry not buying it. No political influence lasts 30 years Nd it does NOT explain how the infant mortality is higher in republican states across the USA

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    It is not a direct correlate but it has a strong association
     
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    All they have to do to ensure that is just defund programs keeping babies alive

    Abstinence only sex education DOES NOT WORK
     
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    And they're largely poor because of Republican policies. High tech companies need an educated populace, both as workers and customers. Few educated people want to bring their kids up in a place where the government requires Creationism be taught and diverts STEM programs funding to abstinence only sex ed and education in general funding to enforcement of laws that make families have children they don't want. Conservatives make a great fetish about how they are hardheaded and practical but it is a truism that where they run things the area is almost invariably poor and backward while liberal areas have large and prosperous tax bases that that are called upon to bail conservatives out.
     
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    Is this your validation for graft?
     
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    Sounds like a good use of funds. Decreasing single parent households and out of wedlock children go a very long way to reducing the need for govt handouts.
     
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    So you are admitting that making sure the most vulnerable amongst us are fed is ONLY A LIBERAL THING???You right wingers would have them starve to death as long as fat cat pretend Christians like the supposed Rev.Roy Moore gets his large slice of the pie??
     
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    Liberals are the ones who want to abort them. Conservatives just want to keep it in a marriage.

    You Liberals have no problem with Planned Parenthood, yet suddenly you have a problem with abstinence programs, promoting two parent families and cutting out of wedlock pregnancy?

    Then you say that Conservative Pro-Lifers don't care about women with babies, and if they really cared about reducing abortion they would, but suddenly now you're complaining about Conservatives directing assistance towards them?
     
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    Republican states have more poverty than Democrat states, but Democrat cities have more poverty than Republican cities.

    It's an interesting paradox.
     
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    Neither does condom education.
    Not graft.
     
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    Meanwhile truly liberal Churches like ELCA, UM. PCUSA and The Episcopalians are dying because they have become little more than country clubs that are open only on Sundays.
     
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    The political influences isn't the problem its the bureaucratic mindset that has to change and that can take a whole generation or more.
     
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    And proof that this works?

    Now tell me how does sending kids to Christian summer camps improve poverty?
     
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    So, explain why democratic voting states have a lower infant mortality
     
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    But LARCS DO work

    Would make more sense if the money went to funding free Long Acting Reliable Contraception
     
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    Abstinence programs do not work

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