Joe Biden promises to 'cure cancer' if elected president

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  1. Hoosier8

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    The cost is driven up by having government involved in 60% of the funding and by not limiting resources, doctors, and drugs.
     
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    Sure, but I have no idea what your point is.
     
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  3. Hoosier8

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    Single payer systems necessarily have to limit resources (cost) since when single payer is implemented the system becomes more important than the patient.
     
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    Every nation with single payer, pays less per capita and has better outcomes. The big problem for the right is, whites have to share waiting rooms with minorities.
     
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    When you include single payer as a metric, yes they rate higher but then ask yourself why so many from those countries come here to get better care. The metrics used by those that create those reports do not tell you that countries measure certain metrics differently. For instance birth mortality. The US measures all birth related deaths as deaths and the US leads in survivable pre-term survivable births. Some countries only consider a birth death depending on birth size or only if it is carried to term.
     
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    Wow have you been lied to
     
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    Wrong. Between 750,000 and 1.4 million AMERICANS travel abroad for healthcare. The biggest landing spot is Mexico because of the lower cost.
     
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    You watch Faux, that speaks for itself. The most untrustworthy so called News Channel in the free world.
     
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    Are you on Medicare ? You obviously know that’s a total falsehood.
     
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    Well, it only took him a lifetime to do something

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    States already regulate the health insurance industries within their own states. That's why you can't buy health insurance from an out of state insurance company UNLESS they have a corporate presence within your state. That would make health insurance INTRAstate commerce, not INTERstate commerce. The Federal government has power over interstate commerce, not business carried on completely within the confines of a single state.
     
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    That’s what I’ve been saying. You want the fed to step in and allow insurance companies to sell scam insurance accross lines and avoid state control and protection of their citizens. Now you’re for federal government. Control ? That’s a laugh. . You never once mention preexisting conditons. You’re wrong not to. “For profit” private insure companies CANNOT AFFORD to make a profit plus be forced to insure anyone with preexisting conditons. you want states to protect people with scam insurances sold by scammers out of state. You’re solutions are a joke.
    That’s why we have Medicare for old people.
    Conservatives can’t even add. You have the biggest deficits, worse health insurance and terrible economies because you want tax money to go into PRIVATE BUSINESSES.
    Private insurance cannot provide quality health insurance for anyone but people who don’t need it. It has nothing to do with having a home office in a state.
     
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    Trump can’t even build a wall he promised...with republicans in full Charge for two years. Joe can cure cancer. He has the magic touch. That’s why he touches so many people. You would think you conservatives would fall for this scam, you do everything else.
     
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    No actually i don’t. You should really learn not to be some prejudice
     
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    Yes, if only cost is the factor, not the actual medical care.
     
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    Medicare has more problems than SS with unfunded future mandates and the increase in cost rate exceeds the increase in GDP rate. That cannot go on forever without tackling changes in Medicare which is a hot button political issue. Again, the system will come before the patient as it will be either patients or taxpayers that will have to take the burden, probably both.
     
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    They have. Medicare part A is in the Black, always was, always will be. It has one sixth the overhead as private insurance.
    So argue with someone else. No one else in the world pays as high prices percaita as we do. Argue with your cat. He/she can’t research.
     
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    Mexican medical care is better then no care at all.
     
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    Now. For the second consecutive year, the trustees project that Medicare will have to draw 45 percent of its money from general funds within seven years. It is growing faster than what is coming in.
     
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    YOU ARE WRONG. PART A IS IN THE BLACK.
    That’s NOT PART A. That is the supplemental which is normally bought from private insurance that older citizens now need help with. The private insurance 20% is getting too expensive.
    Part A normal Medicare patient pays about $100 a month for part A 80% coverage but must pay on average, an additional $200 per month for the 20% which is private insurance backed coverage. Medicare if 100% govt insured, would be dramatically less.
     
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    Show reference.
     
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    Trustees project that the HI Trust Fund will be depleted in 2029. That is Part A. You don't pay anything for Part A. You do for Part B or any of the other supplemental plans.
     
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    Ha ha
    Guest what, conservatives have been doing the scare game for decades. SS was suppose to run out too but the cap was raised.
    All insurance goes up. Your FICA taxes will go up well before 2029 like it has in the past and the contribution retirees make will go up. Seeing that the overhead is still one sixth of private insurance, you private part of 20% , is over $200 now and that’s going up faster. You’re wrong again. Single payer is ALWAYS cheaper.
     
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    Retirees receiving SS still have monies deducted from their SS check that goes into Medicare supplements. That is in addition to the $200 plus they pay for the additional 20%. That’s the scam and proof positive that Medicare is cheaper then private insurance.,.
     
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    "Cancer Czar" Joe Biden is working on new therapies...
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