Republican's Latest Monumental Faux Pas

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  1. FoxHastings

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    Anti-Choicers describe everything from sperm/egg to death as a "child". They don't believe stages in human life have names.
     
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    Derideo_Te said:
    Another erroneous response!

    Those who DEPRIVE WOMEN of their rights to an abortion would be the slave owners.




    Why didn't you address the post you quoted?


    NO where in that post did the poster indicate in any way that ""a woman killing her unborn child is good""".


    He wasn't discussing that at all.....

    He made a statement of fact: ""Those who DEPRIVE WOMEN of their rights to an abortion would be the slave owners.""
     
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  3. Dissily Mordentroge

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    The Rite to Life view I find most repulsive is their opposition to voluntary euthanasia. Having spent some time working on a ‘palliative care’ ward in a Catholic hospice I came away horrified and how unthinkingly cruel medical staff and priests could be towards those dying without dignity and in agony. These tortured souls, when requesting voluntary euthanasia, were often given large doses of psychoactive drugs to silence them and hide the fact so called pain killers weren’t doing their job as claimed. It appears we are expected to suffer on the cross as did Christ despite the claim he died for our sins. Roman, and many other forms of Christianity, are sadistic and sadistic in order to salve the consciences of those left behind. I confess I found myself wishing the medical staff, nuns and priests in these facilities would experience a dose of their own ‘medicine’ in their last days.
     
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    No we don't.

    Pro-life people believe that a human from conception (zygote) to natural death is precious.

    Anti-lifers need to start acting like they care about life.
    Yes we do.

    The problem with anti-lifers is that they think one stage is more important than another stage and therefore can be snuffed out.
     
  5. FoxHastings

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    FoxHastings said:
    Anti-Choicers describe everything from sperm/egg to death as a "child".



    Yes, they do, they insist that a fetus, one stage of life, is really another stage in life "child".

    If names are interchangeable then why don't they call everything "child" or call a fetus a teenager??




    Which has NOTHING to do with Anti-Choicers insisting a fetus is a child.


    If you are referring to Pro-Choicers, yes, they care about all life, even women's lives...and their rights which are essential to life.

    Anti-Choicers seem to only care about the fetuses life.


    :) Yes, you believe all stages are called child or can be called child...if a fetus can be called child then anything can be called anything you want....why not call a fetus a teenager or adult???


    The problem with Anti-Choicers is that they think everything from sperm/egg is called "child"...
     
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    You didn't say fetus. You said sperm/egg...
    Sperm/egg is not a fetus.

    Educate yourself.
     
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    There's nothing pro-choice about killing unborn fetuses.

    The anti-lifers only care about themselves. They don't care about the unborn fetus.
     
  8. Dissily Mordentroge

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    Well there we have it. Couched in apparently innocuous terms is the doctrine of redemption through suffering. I find it difficult not to wish a profoundly natural and agonisingly painful death on all those pushing this obscene theology dressed up as caring and concern.
    On the other side we have the evil of wanting to bring to full term profoundly disabled embryos who’s entire life medical science knows will be one long crucifixion. Wasn’t having Christ die on the cross once enough for these people?
     
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    Why didn’t you report this to the healthcare ombudsman? Unless you are a health professional yourself you are unlikely to fully understand medication required
     
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    I had more that sufficient training to fully understand the amount and kind of medication required. The question is ‘required for what’? To make the patient ‘manageable’ through rendering them so catatonic they cannot speak? Having myself experienced post operatively the nightmarish effects of so high a dose of Oxycodone I could neither move nor speak yet was still experiencing excrutiating pain I have more than an academic understanding of the state. Report it to the healthcare ombudsman? That’s no how reports of this kind were handled in Australia at the time, the early days of the AIDS epidemic.
    There’s the additional truth many practitioners of certain faiths don’t and won’t face. There are cases of terminal illness where pain is so severe it cannot comfortably be suppressed short of administering general anaesthesia.
    We note you avoid any comment upon the moral dimensions of such cases.
     
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    Thank you for proving my point!
     
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    Who are YOU to DICTATE that she MUST gestate an UNWANTED fetus to her own personal DETRIMENT?
     
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    He defines it erroneously from both a scientific and a legal standpoint!
     
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    :applause:
     
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    That happened to my grandfather and while he had dementia and was reduced to little more than a body in pain that took 9 months to eventually die it was the mental anguish of watching her own father dying that was inflicted on my mother which was even worse IMO because she could do nothing to help him.

    TBH we would not let our own pet dogs and cats go through that same degree of pain of suffering. We consider it humane to "put them to sleep" but this insane "preservation of life" even when there is zero quality of life and only needless pain and suffering is just mindless theist dogma that does way more harm than good.
     
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    Why must everyone else be as hypocritical as theists are in this regard?
     
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    :applause:
     
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    I didn't say a sperm/egg was a fetus.....why are you getting fussy ? You call a fetus a child !! LOL!
     
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    Yes and it tells me more than I want to know about the sadistic core of Christian theology.
     
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    Unwanted? Unwanted like trash?

    Sad.
     
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    Personally I think this is one of the GOPs worst things to take a stand on. If it wasn't for this issue there'd be a lot more support for the GOP.
     
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    If gun rights go away thr democtic party will go away.
     
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    Who are you to say a mother gets to kill her baby?
     
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    And
    And the day we can shove a fetus up your butt and you endure every complication, every fear of a new mother, is the day you get to FORCE a woman to carry to term. You have NO skin in this game.
     
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    Same raggedy assed old arguments.
     

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