To whom would you give sanctuary.

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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It did not. Nor did Nazi law allow sanctuary for Jews.
     
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    All who claimed personal individual soverignty, and were willing to give their lives in the name of it.
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You just summed up the United States of America. Unfortunately, most of those who come here now come to be dependents not sovereigns. That is why we need to return to merit based immigration.
     
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    If an individual can prove they were held in slavery, I'd be willing to give them federal sanctuary. But there has to be proof of their enslavement beyond their word, and under no circumstances would I accept city or state sanctuary.
     
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    So, sans verifiable slavery, would you obey all laws no matter what they are, where you are, or when you're there? OR Do you believe that we each have a responsibility to pick and choose which laws we obey?
     
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    Would you give sanctuary to a child who survived an abortion?
    Would you give sanctuary to a child in lieu of his mother killing him in abortion?
    In other words, would you offer to give sanctuary to a mother's baby if the mother doesn't abort him?

    I believe that if one talks another out of aborting a baby that she does not want that that one should be prepared to take of the legal and financial responsibilities that accompany a baby. Short of that, one should be prepared to subsidize the mother and child. But the most important thing of all is that none of the above should be compulsory. None of the above should be done by force, not even by force of law.
     
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    The vast majority of Americans claim to be Christian. How convenient of "Christian" right wingers to ignore the Bible's teaching on sanctuary, ain't it?
     
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    Alas, the United States was formed by pioneers, who held liberty as their highest priority. They were brave people who would literally rather live free or die.

    The problem is, after the pioneers settled areas and made them safe, the immigrants began to arrive. The immigrants did not have the same love of liberty as the pioneers, nor the bravery to risk their lives for sovereignty.

    This fact was well known back then, and people who were willing to stand and fight for the principals the country was founded on were said to have "pioneer stock".

    It is a unfortunate fact that much of mankind has evolved under the yoke of subserviency, being peasants for generations upon generations until their subserviency is now part of their DNA.

    Those people do not want to be sovereign. They do not want to take responsibility for their own lives. They instead want to live under the illusion that "leaders" care for their best interest, and they are willing to blindly obey leaders so long as they survive in some degree of comfort.

    So today we have a struggle between the two ideologies. Those who believe in human rights and sovereignty, and are willing to take the responsibility for their lives in order to have those.

    And those who desire to be subjects and to trade their liberty for the comfort and security that the leaders promise. To relegate themselves to the status of human livestock, being herded and exploited and blissfully ignorant of their plight.

    The problem is, there are many more of them than us.
     
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    The bible's teachings on sanctuary do not require one to give sanctuary to all, always no matter who, what, where, or when.
    Jerusalem has walls, so does the Vatican
     
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    Hear here. That is well put and well written.

    You read Sowell. You've read a lot of Sowell, haven't you? Who else do you read? Have you read Dr. Sowell's latest book, "Discriminations and Disparities"?
     
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    You are a wonderful person. Better than I. There are many foster children out there that would love to be able to enjoy you home and love. Good Luck.
     
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    From what I'm hearing, the governmental point of the spear of America's domestic enemies is the Judiciary. Most people have heard of judicial activism, but recently corrupt jurists have apparently taken it to a new level by presuming, as federal District Court judges, to issue nationwide injunctions that fly in the face of Supreme Court precedent, to say nothing of the Constitution; and on appeal, SCOTUS denies certiorari thanks to the demurrals of that gutless wonder, C.J. Roberts.

    That aside, the good news is that the President's oath of office obligates him to disregard plainly unconstitutional court rulings. The bad news is, I can't think of a President since Lincoln who has found the wherewithal to act accordingly.
     
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    That same Bible says your god is not a respecter of persons and that its adherents should follow his example.
     
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    No one as long as we continue to function as a pressure relief valve for dysfunctional tyrannies the problems in those countries will never get better. I much prefer arming the disaffected citizens so they can fight back against the thugs that are ruining their lives.
     
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    The bible doesn't "say" anything. It's a book. It's to be read. You are confusing implication and inference.
     
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    No president can ignore Supreme Court rulings, lol. What an incredibly silly thing to say.
     

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