As promised, Trump slashes aid to Central America over migrants

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  1. ibobbrob

    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    My thoughts exactly and I have expressed that fact several times.
    That is obvious but one has to have a sense of history to understand and many posters on this site didn't study the history in high school or care much about the history when they attended classes.
     
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    The "free ****" given to the shitholes keeps people in the shitholes, and not on hitting the road to join you in Shangri-La! ,
     
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    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    Colonel, have another swallow off the bottle and a hit off the bone.
     
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    People who think only of themselves & nothing about others living around them, make poor countries, poor citizens & poor neighbors. Trump is one of those people. Many of Trump's supporters are of similar mindedness. From my left leaning point of view, no individual succeeds in life in a vacuum. Part of their success is reliant upon those around them--as customers, workers, partners, neighbors, family, etc. I try to always acknowledge that contribution from others into my own life successes, & remain cognizant of the welfare of those around me who continue helping me succeed without even knowing it.
     
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    And of course why we now have the explosion of illegals entering, because democrats have been so successful.
     
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    not quite, why? because the leaders of those shitholes don't pass those funds down, they pocket them & the trodden still flee...
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    You can't comprehend basic logic?

    I can't state it any simpler than that.
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    So, stealing one's money via taxation and giving it to another person is a good thing?

    It is clear why you are a left-winger.
     
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    XploreR Well-Known Member

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    See my post #104 above.
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    That still doesn't give you the right to steal another person's money via taxation.
     
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    This sentiment is sweet, but also childishly naive.

    The dregs of society ---- the lazy, the irresponsible, the unmotivated, the "takers", the generational welfare abusers, the men and women who can't accomplish anything beyond breeding ---- they contribute nothing to society. They are not my "customers" (they cannot afford what I sell), they are not my "workers" (they're too lazy and useless to work), they are not my partners (they are too unmotivated and/or unintelligent to partner in any successful venture), they are not my neighbors (they can't afford to live anywhere I would live), and they are not my family. They don't contribute to my life and they don't contribute to society, all they do is waste resources.
     
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    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    that's logical? Oh
     
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    XploreR Well-Known Member

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    With such strong negative & judgmental opinions toward others, if the light did appear out there somewhere, would you be capable of seeing it? I wonder. Your world view is very different from my own, but your post was interesting. :)
     
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    I've seen enough, and been through enough, that I've become harshly realistic, that's all. :)

    Show me a person who is genuinely working hard to improve themselves and I will be their biggest cheerleader and bend over backwards to help them if I can.

    But I've come to acknowledge that too many people are nothing but a drag on society, and I can't condone or even accept that (although our taxation system forces me to, against my will.)
     
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    Of course I can prove it, I live near the border, do you? This is from the El Paso Times, not exactly a conservative paper, but they're even closer to the border than I am. This story is from two months ago, since then the term 'recycled' has a distinct meaning down here i the border areas.

    'Recycled' migrant children used by unrelated adults to look like family, US officials say

    A migrant child in Border Patrol custody in its El Paso Sector was used by a migrant adult in an attempt to be considered a family by immigration authorities, officials said.

    On Wednesday, an agent working with the Customs and Border Protection Office of Field Operations discovered the two were not related after they gave inconsistent answers during interviews.

    With help from other federal agents, officials discovered that the child had been used twice before for the same purpose.

    'Recycling' of children in family fraud

    Immigration authorities call the practice "recycling," explaining that migrant children are grouped with unrelated adult migrants to appear as families when apprehended.

    Border Patrol officials say transnational criminal organizations orchestrate the practice, so they can profit from smuggling migrants into the United States, which helps migrants skirt the immigration process through fraud.

    https://www.elpasotimes.com/story/n...g-child-skirt-immigration-process/1104522001/
     
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    Ummm....by giving aid to those countries all those years we did make ourselves good neighbors to them. Look at the dung heap known as Juarez. That city greatly benefited by decades of American tourism. Today, because of how ruthless the Mexican people can be, Americans are advised not to go there and be very careful of you do. The soldiers at Fort Bliss are under orders not to go there.

    Now why is it dangerous to go to Juarez you ask? Because, like I said, the people are ruthless and will shoot up an entire wedding party, decapitate people and roll their heads down the street, and hang dead bodies from bridges. Please tell me your media sources are informing you of this. If you doubt how violent the Mexicans can be, just look at how brutal the Mexican gangs are in California and how many of them are in prison.
     
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    I believe it, but I have a hard time believing anything coming out of a Trump government official. Trump created this mess with his abysmal and chaotic management skills.
     
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    I don't doubt the accuracy of your post, but as I've stated in previous posts on this forum, one can find examples of every conceivable human behavior, even those beyond imagining. But that doesn't mean we should base our daily lives on society's lowest common denominator. There are examples of human behaviors & actions based on love, compassion, and the higher levels of consciousness too. Earth is a continual matrix of the yin & yang forces. Where we spend our personal lives in that matrix is a personal decision. Nobody gains from lowering ourselves to that lowest level, no matter what we're dealing with at any given time. It's also a bad idea to allow ourselves to use the lowest common denominator group as a measure upon which to base our personal views of human nature. It is far better to use the highest common denominator examples for that. Then we all win. :)
     
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    I don't know how good a neighbor we were to those countries as the aid was given to the autocratic governments and the people never benefitted from it.
     
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    I suspect you're right in many if not most cases. Sad. :(
     
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    I assume you're making reference to the strong economy which is drawing them here.
     
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    That would be a poor assumption.
     
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    So you don't believe a strong American economy is a factor in drawing more illegals? The surge obviously happened long before any economic cutbacks so your logic makes zero sense.
     
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    You're forgetting one thing....

    Slashing aid to a country that has migrants coming here won't help the situation, here or at the country in question. It will only escalate the situation and cause more migrants to come here. So, it can be a promise kept but with negative repercussions.
     
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    You assume wrong. The economy didn't draw anyone anywhere. Their reasoning centers around survival.
     

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