The Political Cow-towing to Israel

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  1. CCitizen

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    About 4 million people died as a result of Stalin' s Penal System -- 800,000 executed, the rest died in penal settlements. That is a tragedy, but that does not remotely compare to Nazi atrocities.
     
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    Many modern people are Atheists -- they do not understand Numbers 24:9. USA helps Israel and thus secures a blessing.
     
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    sorry but the Bible is nothing but a supersticious comic book

    I place more value in The NY Times
     
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    Atheism scares me. Not only it is a sin but also it places very low value on human life.

    In USA, millions of people are abandoned by Society. American Society has forgotten Laws about Charity. I am defined by my Disability to a great extent, so Darwinism scares me.
     
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    Aside from all other issues, Atheism is linked to Darwinism. Many Darwinists believe that people with mental disability present little value to Society. That scares me.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    some of the worst crimes in human history were committed in the name of religion.

    So whatever....
     
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    Oh please. More than 70 years ago.
     
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    I'm afraid that you've grossly underestimated the number of Stalin's victims whose suffering was every bit as tragic as those who suffered under Nazism.

    Just one of Stalin's henchmen, Genrikh Yagoda(1) killed at least 10 million people & who knows how many others perished painfully both before & after WW 2 at the hands of America's temporary "ally".

    It's important to remember that only 7% - 10% percent of the German population were members of the Nazi party and many were of various nationalities & ethnic groups.

    During the 1930s & into the 1940s National Socialism was widely popular throughout Europe & the US and the Nazi party even included some high ranking Jews(2).

    Even though Hollywood & MSM saturate the entertainment media with redundant holocaust lore, I'm sure that if you were study history's innumerable genocides(3), you would find countless mass killings that equal or exceed the holocaust in enormity.


    (1) "Stalin's Jews"
    "We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish"

    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

    EXCERPT "And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people."CONTINUED


    (2) "List of Nazis of non-Germanic descent"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazis_of_non-Germanic_descent



    (3)
    Top 10 Most Horrific Genocides In History
    https://www.toptenz.net/top-10-most-horrific-genocides-in-history.php

     
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    People who spread nonfactual information will rarely rescind their comments.
     
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    We have been sucking the D of Israel now for decades. They literally can do no wrong in the eyes of the christian right wing establishment. If they were to carpet bomb Gaza, killing 90% of all Palestinian men, women, and children, the right wing would line up and cheer as loudly as they could, and cheer on the reclamation of holy land in the name of their blood thirsty god.
     
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    this thread is about Israel and Israel alone, please stay on topic
     
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    The USA gives lots of undo aid to many nations.

    Egypt the #2.

    but nobody complains about that
     
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    I saw a chart of foreign aid the U.S. provides to various nations. The U.S. provides about as much aid to the nations sharing a border with Israel as they do to Israel itself.
     
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    $39 billion+ to Egypt, who was a brutal dictatorship until a few years ago.

    thousands of Christians murdered in Egypt over the last few decades.

    hundreds of churches destroyed

    but no one cares.
     
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    Economic aid to Egypt is simply a bribe to get the Egyptians to help the Israelis contain the residents of Gaza and be nice to Israel.
    It's just another way in which Israel is a drain on American taxpayers.



    "Unlikely Partners: How Egypt Benefits from Ties With Israel"
    https://theglobepost.com/2018/03/20/egypt-israel-relations/
    EXCERPT "Egypt, the most populous Arab nation, is an unlikely partner of Israel. But keeping on good terms with the Jewish republic since 1979 has been key forEgypt to secure crucial U.S. aid, preserve necessary security cooperation against terrorists and avoid incising Western criticism on its rights abuses.

    The Egyptian leader, Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, who is set to be re-elected next week, is utilizing Cairo’s good relationship with Israel to maintain warm ties with Washington and benefit from newly discovered oil riches of Eastern Mediterranean."CONTINUED
     
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    bla bla bla...

    "everything about israel is bad."

    "even their religion is bad."

    whatever bro
     
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    No, everything about Israel is not bad nor is the State religion bad.

    It's just that Israel is dominated by ethnic cleansing, war mongering, right wing extremists.

    In other words, Israel's government, like America's current war mongering administration is "bad"
     
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