Another useless Middle East War???????

Ordinary Americans, including the still thinking Left, does not want another warmonger in the WH.
Jill Stein, like Sanders, was black balled by the crooks that run the DP, but she would have been a far better candidate than The Clintons.

"I am currently trending on both Twitter and Facebook. Why? Because Americans want more than warmongers and fools," Stein tweeted. "Despite Hillary's penchant for flip-flopping rhetoric, she's spent decades serving the causes of the Wall Street, war, & Walmart economy." AP, Who's Jill Stein? Googlers are asking, and the answer is: Clinton's new problem, Alexander Panetta, 7/13/16.
http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/who-s-j...the-answer-is-clinton-s-new-problem-1.2985936

 

Same forces at work for the last 35 years....

 

Just wait for it. Lets see how low his poll numbers get.

 

You call me names and accuse me of things I did not say - I call you out on this insane whining - and you then accuse me of insane whining.

LOL Some days you feel like a nut - sometimes you don't .. then there are those that actually are nuts !

You are projecting our issues onto me.

Help can be found here

https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/psychpedia/projection

 

Really? Thats the best you got? Pretty lame imo. If you want to insult me, youll have to do better than this. I cant get myself to worked up for something a 1st grader would say.

 

How would it be worst than what Clinton did in Sudan and in Serbia? He was the definition of wag the dog.... Or Obama and Libya, egypt, syria...

 

Were they US tankers? Was the drone in international waters?

 

Commerce is international and one of the founding principle of the us navy is the protection of commerce on the high sea.

Yes the drone was over international waters.

 

No,

Which videos? Enlighten me.

 

So you didn’t want to respond to 9/11?

We didn’t invade Iran. Why did Iran kill thousands of Americans in Lebanon, Afghanistan, and Iraq?

 

Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11 and we had no business being in Iraq.

The USA needs to stay the **** out of the Middle East!!!

 

But why was Iran in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Lebanon? De-stabilizing the region?

 

Afghanistan had a big role in 9/11, and Iran was killing Americans there. Why were they in Afghanistan?

 

LOL!!! Iran was not in Afghanistan.

Iran neighbors Iraq, half of the Iraqi people are Shia and Iran was defending them against Sunni terror attacks, none of which would have happened if we not invaded!!!!

The USA needs to stay the **** out of the Middle East!!!

 

Iran wasn't killing ANY Americans in Afghanistan.

not even Bush claimed this.

where are you getting this disinfo from????

 

Anyone interested in Iran-Afghanistan relations can start here.


I thought this incident was pretty interesting:

On YouTube you can see videos of one kind of wild animal fighting another -- pythons vs alligators seems a popular favorite. I can see the attraction, but ... why jump into the pit and take sides?

 

What are US marines doing in the mideast? We don't belong there, they want to live like they are in the middle ages- bless them. Israel wants to act like ancient Rome it is on them.

 

Yes, US commerce. They were not US ships so your wrong there
It's still debatable where the drone actually was and it will honestly never be known for sure.

 

No, all commerce. Beside in this global economy, commerce is a concern for all developped nations.
And it's not debatable since its position was gps tracked accurately like all military assets.

 

Of course it was.......and no one would lie about that.
I could find nothing stating ALL commerce.

 

That's your problem not mine.

 

You keep forgetting the background to all this.

Is Trump provoking a war with Iran? You decide.

Trump withdrew the U.S. from the nuclear deal with Tehran that permanently barred Iran from making a nuke.

In an interview with Time, Trump described what kind of provocation he believes would justify military action. "I would certainly go [to war] over nuclear weapons."

Trump ratcheted up sanctions — including, in April, a move to shut down Iran’s remaining oil exports.

Trump offered up a dozen draconian U.S. dictates that would completely reverse Iran's foreign policy, essentially calling for regime change.

On May 5th, Trump ordered a battleship-carrier strike group (CBG), led by the U.S.S. Abraham Lincoln, and a bomber task force, including B-52s, deployed off Iran’s coast.

Five days later, on May 10th, Trump ordered a second display of force: the U.S.S. Arlington and a battery of Patriot missile systems would join the Abraham Lincoln.

The U.S. military provoked the incident yesterday. The military sent up a drone to spy on Iran, and it was positioned 8 to 10 miles from the territorial waters of Iran according to CentCom. It was on a spying mission when it was shot down. Even if we believe the drone was in international waters, who provoked who?

Another question. Does Trump know what he is doing? It doesn't sound like it. He poked a bee hive, and he doesn't like the consequences.

 

Trump designs his tweets for a certain audience, his base. Members of his base are the only ones who will believe what he says. Such is the case with his tweets today.



Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump

....On Monday they shot down an unmanned drone flying in International Waters. We were cocked & loaded to retaliate last night on 3 different sights when I asked, how many will die. 150 people, sir, was the answer from a General. 10 minutes before the strike I stopped it, not....



Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump

....proportionate to shooting down an unmanned drone. I am in no hurry, our Military is rebuilt, new, and ready to go, by far the best in the world. Sanctions are biting & more added last night. Iran can NEVER have Nuclear Weapons, not against the USA, and not against the WORLD!

6:03 AM - Jun 21, 2019

"Sights???" Would you trust a President who doesn't know the difference between "sights" and "sites?"

"We were cocked & loaded?" Did Trump get that from a John Wayne movie? What a trite phrase for a President to use, but it is the kind of phrase his fans love.

There is the overall tenor of these two tweets that only Trump's adoring admirers could possibly believe. Our military is about to make a serious mistake according to Trump's story line and suddenly, at the last minute, he rides in on his white horse and saves the day. Good Lord, it is difficult to imagine anyone believing that. Is that how decisions are made in the Trump White House?

"I asked, how many will die. 150 people, sir, was the answer from a General. 10 minutes before the strike." Very dramatic and a total lie. When the Pentagon presents its options for a military strike, up front is the estimate of casualties. No President is going to learn of the casualty estimate ten minutes before zero hour unless said President is just plain stupid.

"Sanctions are biting & more added last night." Another lie, the White House has not imposed new sanctions, not yet, anyway. However, that seems to be the direction toward which Trump is heading. He backed Iran into a corner, and Iran shot down a very expensive UAV.

Iran called his bluff and Trump chooses to back down.

 

Seems like I have already answered all of those questions. Some asked by you and some asked by others.

 

Sandy, do you want war with Iran? A simple yes or no will suffice. We can work from there.