Trump supporters line up over 36 hours early for President's Orlando rally

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  1. edthecynic

    edthecynic Well-Known Member

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    Since when is Canada part of Russia??? Furthermore those Canadian donations to the Clinton Foundation came BEFORE Rosatom announced a desire to acquire a 51% stake in Uranium One.
    Russia funneled $30 million to Tramp's campaign through the NRA for one.
     
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    edthecynic Well-Known Member

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    And you already know that is not true, as you well know it was CANADIANS who donated $2.35 million, which you have questionably inflated to $3 million showing your desperation, to the Clinton Foundation from their Foundation. You seem to think everyone abuses their foundations like Tramp did before he was banned.
    They probably failed to report it for the same reasons Jarred failed to report all his Russian contacts, so it can't possibly be for any nefarious reasons. :)
     
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    edthecynic Well-Known Member

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    Your own photo when blown up shows many bare spots and shows the crowd does not even reach the white building in the background, which was not there for Obama's inauguration. Obama's crowd went all the way up to where the white building was and all the way past it to the Washington Monument.
    So FAIL!
     
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    It shows the entire scene. It couldn't possibly show any more detail. You probably didn't know that you are supposed to zoom in and scroll around to see it all.
     
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    The crowd, does indeed, go all the way back to the moments. You can see it for yourself. If you care to look.

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    That is not the same picture as this, is it?

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    Yuge difference.
     
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    It doesn't even come close to the Washington Monument. In Fact the crowd does not even reach the white security buildings in front of the Washington Monument! All you have to do is zoom into the part of the photo where the crowd ends. You know how to do that, don't you, so you have no excuse for your false claim!!!
    Here is a photo that shows just how far away from the monument those 3 buildings are.
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    And here is a comparison of the crowd side for both from that same angle.
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    Just my personal opinion. Demonizing a helpless group to create fear and accumulate power is what Hitler did and it is for certain what Trump does. He has been playing the illegal immigrant threat ever since he started running for office and now four years later he has done nothing about the problem except babble about his wall and now he is running on the same issue again.

    He has never made a serious effort to deal with the issue and like any good one trick pony here he is playing it again sam.
     
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    LOL
     
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    Lets cut to the chase. Is there any evidence that the deal has harmed in any way America's national security. The answer is no so the case is closed. And there is mo evidence thst the Foundation money went for the personal use of the Clintons so the case is closed.

    If the best the Trump supporters can do is rehash old nonsense and run against Hillary again they are surely in a very bad way. Suggest the run on Trump's promise to provide great healthcare for all Americans which would be even more pathetic.
     
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    Thanks. That is my reaction to the Trump speech as well.
     
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    Trump is not Hitler.

    Trump is not Putin.

    You don't like him? Fine.

    Just please stop with the absurd comparisons. Don't be a clown show.
     
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    Sorry for your reading comprehension issues. Never said Trump was Hitler. Said they used the same tactics to build their support which apparently no Trump supporter is will to deny or able to disprove .
     
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    Yep.

    Clown show.
     
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    See you cannot even begin to debate the truth of what I actually said. Buy I really don't ever expect much of an intellectual challenge or rational debate from Trump supporters. That you for confirming my opinion.
     
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    Because it's a retarded premise.
     
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    Well, you got one thing right ---- that is just your personal opinion, because it certainly isn't factual.

    Nobody is "demonizing" anybody. Illegal is illegal. Pointing out illegality is not "demonizing". Trying to protect our border and enforce our laws isn't "demonizing".

    "Helpless group"? They chose to come here and disregard our laws and our immigration processes. That doesn't make them "helpless".

    "Playing the illegal immigrant threat"?? The threat is real, there is no "playing".

    "Ever since he started running for office and now four years later ..... now he is running on the same issue again." That's because it is still a problem.

    "He has never made a serious effort to deal with the issue"??? ROFL. It is hard to take people like you seriously when you say things as uninformed as this. He's been making a serious effort since he was elected ---- but Democrats have fought him every step of the way. We even had a government shutdown over this. You might not like Trump, but to claim he hasn't tried to do anything about the immigration problem is to completely ignore reality.
     
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    How much cash did the Russians give Jarred? Russia's interest in acquiring more uranium was well known to The Clintons long before the Uranium One scheme was concocted to deliver it to them.

    Beyond mines in Kazakhstan that are among the most lucrative in the world, the sale gave the Russians control of one-fifth of all uranium production capacity in the United States. Since uranium is considered a strategic asset, with implications for national security, the deal had to be approved by a committee composed of representatives from a number of United States government agencies. Among the agencies that eventually signed off was the State Department, then headed by Mr. Clinton’s wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, ***a flow of cash*** made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well.

    And shortly after the Russians announced their intention to acquire a majority stake in Uranium One, Mr. Clinton received $500,000 for a Moscow speech from a Russian investment bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock.”
    THE NEW YORK TIMES, Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal, By Jo Becker and Mike McIntire, APRIL 23, 2015 (*** mine)
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/u...ssed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?_r=0

    The Clintons will be easily convicted of bribery if they are ever charged - unless you happen to be on the jury. ;-)
     
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    I included the $500,000.00 the Russians paid directly to "Mr. Clinton". That brings the total, that we know about, to $2,835,000.00, and you call $ 3 million "inflated"? Ed, that's pretty desperate. :)

    The Clinton Foundation is notoriously corrupt. I bet you know that. ;-)

    "And shortly after the Russians announced their intention to acquire a majority stake in Uranium One, Mr. Clinton received ***$500,000*** for a Moscow speech from a Russian investment bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock.”
    THE NEW YORK TIMES, Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal, By Jo Becker and Mike McIntire, APRIL 23, 2015 (***mine)
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/u...ssed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?_r=0
     
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    Comparing Trump to Hitler for his attempt to control the border is historical revisionism and Holocaust denial. So, it is also very ineffective political slander.
     
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    The Clinton Foundation is corrupt and has raised at least $2B which has been used to benefit The Clintons, and their political machine. When and if the The Clintons are ever charged with accepting bribes a jury will vote to lock them up in a NY minute.

    “The Clinton Foundation accepted millions of dollars from seven foreign governments during Hillary Rodham Clinton’s tenure as secretary of state, including one donation that ***violated its ethics agreement*** with the Obama administration, foundation officials disclosed Wednesday.”
    WASHINGTON POST, Foreign governments gave millions to foundation while Clinton was at State Dept., By Rosalind S. Helderman and Tom Hamburger February 25, 2015. (***mine)
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...937c1e-bc3f-11e4-8668-4e7ba8439ca6_story.html
     
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    One note.. Clinton ginned up the bribe by threatening NOT to sign off on the Uranium deal...

    And I'd mortgage my house to be able to have the time to sit on THAT jury!
     
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    The Clintons have apparently always been for sale when the price is right.

    “Further suspicions of a quid pro quo also have surfaced because while the CFIUS deliberations were taking place, people who stood to profit from Uranium One sale donated more than $2.6 million to the Clinton Foundation and an investment bank with connections to the Russian government paid former president Bill Clinton $500,000 to deliver a speech more than his usual fee. Even before the sale was under consideration the Clinton Foundation received $31.3 million in donations from one person, Frank Giustra, who stood to benefit from the sale. Some of the donations were not properly disclosed at the time. Bill Clinton also helped Guistra, who was once owned a company that merged with Uranium One, secure valuable uranium mining rights in Kazakhstan.”
    CIRCA, Memo undercuts Hillary story on controversial Russian uranium deal, Clinton foundation, by Raphael Williams, 8/24/16.
    http://circa.com/politics/election-...-russian-uranium-moves-were-bad-for-us-europe
     
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    • A former Deutsche Bank employee discovered several suspicious money transfers between Kushner Companies and Russian individuals in the summer of 2016.
     
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    Canadian chairman Ian Telfer you mean, nor Russian money, but you already knew that.
     
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    Yes 3 million is quite an inflation from 500,000. As you well know, all the other money came from CANADIANS Giustra and Telfer, not Russians, and no matter how many times you repeat the same debunked baloney it will never be true.
     

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