Florida Approves Bill Allowing Classroom Teachers To Be Armed

Discussion in 'United States' started by Bush Lawyer, Jun 20, 2019.

  1. Bush Lawyer

    Bush Lawyer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2018
    Messages:
    15,037
    Likes Received:
    9,495
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    Quite funny for an American to be telling anyone overseas to mind their own business when it can hardly be said that the US ever minds its own business and never ever sticks its nose in the internal affairs of other Countries, um....like Iran etc.
     
    Renee, Bowerbird and wombat like this.
  2. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2017
    Messages:
    44,681
    Likes Received:
    12,448
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I taught high school for three decades. Most teachers will never be someone I'd like to see with a firearm in their hands in a school. Short of gun control in society, the only way our students will be protected is with onsite security.
     
    Renee, Sallyally and Bowerbird like this.
  3. Bush Lawyer

    Bush Lawyer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2018
    Messages:
    15,037
    Likes Received:
    9,495
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    A better way of putting it is this.....the only way to protect your kids from guns at school is to have no guns. If yer not gonna do that...make every School a fortress, moated with the draw bridge kept up.
     
    Renee and Bowerbird like this.
  4. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2017
    Messages:
    44,681
    Likes Received:
    12,448
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The rare exception rather than the rule, especially in cities.
     
    Last edited: Jun 22, 2019
    Bowerbird likes this.
  5. Raffishragabash

    Raffishragabash Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2018
    Messages:
    2,977
    Likes Received:
    356
    Trophy Points:
    83

    Or, shoots an unarmed Black male student, is the ultimate purpose of this law passing, in the UBER-racist state of Florida.

    I'm taking bets, now, on how a Black male student is going to be the first victim of the law. I promise.
     
    Last edited: Jun 22, 2019
    Bowerbird likes this.
  6. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2017
    Messages:
    44,681
    Likes Received:
    12,448
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Most Americans have never been to Australia and know nothing about you.
     
    Bowerbird likes this.
  7. Moonglow

    Moonglow Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2013
    Messages:
    20,754
    Likes Received:
    8,047
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Don't worry the teachers are just as good as hiding and cowering as cops are...
     
  8. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2017
    Messages:
    44,681
    Likes Received:
    12,448
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Commies? You haven't been to Australia, have you?
    Most teachers are pro-choice.
    You should learn something about Aussies.
     
    Sallyally, Bowerbird and wombat like this.
  9. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2017
    Messages:
    44,681
    Likes Received:
    12,448
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The vast majority of teachers would quit before they'd carry a firearm in a school.
     
    Bowerbird likes this.
  10. Bush Lawyer

    Bush Lawyer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2018
    Messages:
    15,037
    Likes Received:
    9,495
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    And who would blame them? Why should they be subjected to this indirect guilt trip, the subtle social pressure to become gun toting student protectors? The instant a Teacher goes armed and there is a shootor, that Teacher will be in the hot seat and questions will fly as rapidly as the allegations that they failed to nail the bad guy. Stop the guns!
     
  11. wombat

    wombat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2017
    Messages:
    1,245
    Likes Received:
    482
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    Ok, well we have left and right hete also. But it appears with many US citizens if one advocates an anti gun stance, you are immediately labelled a "leftie" when you have zero political persuasion. ...you can just have a attitude to fix the slaughter from gun violence, it doesn't mean you are of the left.
     
    Bowerbird likes this.
  12. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    91,878
    Likes Received:
    73,635
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Really? I note that as usual your post is sans proof
     
  13. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2017
    Messages:
    44,681
    Likes Received:
    12,448
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Oh, please--saying Australians have no freedom of speech is absurd.
    Your privileges to listen to Rush Limbaugh and watch Fox News are cancelled. Hopefully, this intervention will save your brain.
     
    wombat and Bowerbird like this.
  14. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    91,878
    Likes Received:
    73,635
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    ‘Salright mate. It is probably less insulting to call us communists than far right wingers :p
     
    Last edited: Jun 22, 2019
    wombat likes this.
  15. Tim15856

    Tim15856 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2016
    Messages:
    7,792
    Likes Received:
    4,229
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
  16. Tim15856

    Tim15856 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2016
    Messages:
    7,792
    Likes Received:
    4,229
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    So what, has nothing to do with the NRA having anything to do with the mass shooting.
     
  17. Tim15856

    Tim15856 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2016
    Messages:
    7,792
    Likes Received:
    4,229
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Baloney. You twist the stats to your advantage. Mass shooting against strangers most often happen in gun free zones. Only when you include domestic violence where for example, a man kills his wife and kids does the stats change to your favor.
     
  18. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    91,878
    Likes Received:
    73,635
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    That is because WE have something better. It is called the principle of natural justice and it underpins not just “freedom of speech” bilateral a slew of other principles including fair dealing
     
  19. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    91,878
    Likes Received:
    73,635
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Decrease the laws = more guns available = more mass shootings
     
  20. Tim15856

    Tim15856 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2016
    Messages:
    7,792
    Likes Received:
    4,229
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    URL for an Aussie board? Why send it privately, sent it. If I feel like trolling your mates and have time to kill maybe I'll give it a go.
     
    roorooroo likes this.
  21. Tim15856

    Tim15856 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2016
    Messages:
    7,792
    Likes Received:
    4,229
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Only political speech is protected.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech_by_country
    Hate speech laws limit speech just like in the UK.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_in_Australia
    Probably no where as bad as the UK but once on the books, these types of laws are typically expanded.
     
  22. Tim15856

    Tim15856 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2016
    Messages:
    7,792
    Likes Received:
    4,229
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Russia was condemned for doing the same thing your Aussie mates do on a daily basis, post meme's and political posts concerning US politics and elections on social media. I believe this forum counts as social media. Do you not think that advocating for gun control does not have an affect on elections? It causes people to support a certain candidate.
     
    Last edited: Jun 22, 2019
  23. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    91,878
    Likes Received:
    73,635
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    And many of your so called statistics are biased with inclusion of sites that are not truly “gun free zones”. please show one, just one instance where a mass shooter deliberately chose the venue BECAUSE it was a “gun free zone”.

    https://www.politifact.com/florida/...do-most-mass-shootings-happen-gun-free-zones/

    And then please show me the stats that prove having more armed people will stop mass shootings
     
  24. MB74

    MB74 Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2019
    Messages:
    42
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    8
    What about when a student opens up the teacher's gun drawer?
     
    Bowerbird likes this.
  25. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    91,878
    Likes Received:
    73,635
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Sorry did I miss the bit where Trump has torn up the ANZUS treaty and the Five Eyes agreement

    Are you not attempting to stifle OUR freedom of speech whilst claiming that Australia does not have freedom of speech
     
    Last edited: Jun 22, 2019
    Sallyally and wombat like this.

Share This Page