Florida Approves Bill Allowing Classroom Teachers To Be Armed

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  1. Bowerbird

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    And the first person to be shot would be the teacher. You cannot live your life prepared at all times to shoot a mass murderer

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    It's crazy to call you either one.

    What are Aussies? Sports crazy. Geez, do you grow up chasing a ball?
     
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    Just because we like Cricket.........:p
     
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    The most important thing is I've been to Australia and observed Aussie's holding forth. If they don't have free speech, it seems no one has told them.

    Brits, Aussies, Canadians, New Zealanders and Americans are birds-of-a-feather. They have opinions and don't shrink from expressing them. I've spent a lot of time in all of these countries and wouldn't hesitate to live in any of them.
     
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    And Australian football, rugby, football, basketball, tennis, golf... Heck, you don't even need a ball... swimming, surfing...

    Australian with a ball...

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    I taught in a rural school for the first 13 years of my career and a few of the teachers were hunters. Would they have armed themselves to protect the school? Maybe, but I think they would have taken into account the possible negative reaction of some students and fellow staff members. And there would have been a negative reaction, even in a conservative rural community.

    I know I would not have armed myself in a school. The way schools are set up, a teacher needs to get along with colleagues to be effective. Bringing guns into a school is seen as a threat to other teachers by the teachers themselves--you know, if the perps think teachers may be armed, they shoot the teacher first.
    That doesn't mean vets would carry for the same reason I wouldn't.
    Absolutely. I don't think a single guard is enough for even an elementary school of any size. Protecting school communities is going to be expensive--and I'm speaking in the future tense because we're not protecting them now. Also, not protecting them has a financial consequence, too, because we have to pay teachers more to entice them to work in what they perceive as a dangerous environment.

    We need to have a grown up discussion about protecting schools that gets beyond tossing grenades at each other over gun control issues. The worm Dylan Klebold levied a tax on all of us.
     
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    I haven't seen anything indicating that they were armed. Have you?

    Plenty of schools have unarmed resource officers.
     
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    Not at all. Why do you pretend that it's inaccurate information?
     
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    Wow.
    You can see the future. Good for you.

    If you place your schools in gun free zones, then there is NO WAY to defend kids from a mass murderer. (Pssst.....They break the laws.)

    Is THAT your plan?
     
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    What a dumb comment!
    American school were never very good, so you can't wreck what was no good anyway.
     
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    First, how would students actually know which educators do and do not carry a firearm in any particular school?

    Second, there are absolutely no examples of such what if scenarios actually occurring in the states where concealed carry is legal at facilities of learning. Thus making it nothing more than baseless fearmongering on the part of those who simply do not trust educators on the mere basis that they may be armed.
     
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    Is it more expensive than the funerals that must be held for students who are murdered while actually attending classes?

    Firearms are not going anywhere. Cease wishing for firearms to suddenly stop existing, and instead present proposals grounded in the here and now, not in what would rather be.
     
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    First, the above holds no relevance to the fact that concealed carry at facilities of learning is neither new, nor unusual, but rather is significantly widespread.

    Second, the citation referred to on the part of yourself is the violence policy center, which is known for deliberately fabricating the supposed "information" it puts forth. This point has been raised numerous times before, and they remain just as intellectually dishonest as they were the first time they were cited by yourself. They are no more a reliable source of unbiased information than the NRA.
     
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    The most compelling evidence Ive seen. Remarkable.
     
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    Bowerbird stated fact, you got a medal for sarcasm
     
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    Yes indeed as in the UK or Japan or ..................
     
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    Which could happen to a cop as well.
     
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    Neither of which ever actually possessed a firearms culture, unlike the united states. Neither of which ever actually had several hundred million privately owned, unregistered firearms to contend with, unlike the united states.

    Do try to keep up.
     
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    Students could probably guess who might be carrying.
    I don't think there are many schools where teachers are carrying, nor are there many schools where there have been mass shootings.
    Huh? The people who don't trust teachers are typically rightwingers.
     
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    Yes and have you evidence from any site that is NOT a “pro gun” site that the challenges the validity of the data. The only critique I have seen so far is in reference to how they show data on demographics but it did not challenge the data itself
     
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    Cultures can be changed
     
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    How about an even cheaper option

    Sane gun laws
     
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    The above is nothing more than an admission to possessing nothing more than speculation, hypothesis, and blatant guesswork. None of which is substance, or demonstrates the validity of the claims relating to teachers having their firearms stolen by unruly students.

    And yet they are not the ones who are objecting to the idea of educators being allowed to legally carry firearms at facilities of learning.
     

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