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Unfortunately I’m allergic to using the term ‘ prevailing dialectic’. In fact I’m allergic to the term ‘dialectic’ itself which to me smacks of simplistic Marxian ideology even though I know it’s usage has spread beyond that. I fully sympathise however with your being insulted if someone took me to be getting my information from neo-fascists. I too read Glenn Greenwald, Matt Taibbi, Aaron Mate, Seymour Hersh. It’s difficult for us in Australia to translate the term ‘classical liberal’. Here it implies a member of our conservative right wing party. the Liberal Party. However think I know what you mean in contrast to a democratic socialist. Speaking of confusions I often become frustrated with Americans who imagine democratic socialists are some kind of communist.

 

If someone gets laid off unfairly from his job, and shoots his former boss because of it, then who is responsible for the murder?

Yes, the Versailles treaty is a major cause for the war. But cause and responsibility are two very different things.

Even if you're the victim of an injustice, if you initiate violence you're 100% responsible for the violence. That's how it works under the law, and I don't see how it should be any different here.

Churchill was a pretty sick individual, but that's a completely different issue.

That doesn't change the fact that Britain had zero responsibility in starting WW2.

In fact, it's good that you mention colonialism and India, because it's the textbook example on non-violent decolonization. If Gandhi could reclaim India peacefully, I don't see what prevented Germans from reclaiming Dantzig peacefully as well. If they chose the violent solution, it's their responsibility.

Maybe that was the right decision in 1939. But even then the situation was still a powder keg that would have blown up for another reason. For example Hitler would have tried to annex Alsace from the French (that was the logical continuation of restoring Germany to its former borders). Or demanded that France and Britain start deporting Jews.

They didn't do it for Dantzig, they did it because they decided that Hitler's constant expansionism would never stop unless it was met by force. Dantzig wasn't close to being the end of it, his agenda has always been taking massive Lebensraum from the Slavs and, as I quoted, the destruction of France.

 

You're of course entitled to disagree, that's what debates are all about. However, you base your conclusion on something that doesn't exist. The federal government (Merkel's government) had nothing to do with the decision to cancel the landing of said aircraft at Tempelhof Airport and I've already explained that. If what you describe were fact, Merkel's government would have done much more than just interfering with the ceremonial landings of a few planes at Tempelhof, they would most likely have cancelled absolutely everything that commemorates the airlift. That didn't happen, quite the opposite.
It was local authorties in Berlin that made the decision based on the rather incompetent handling of the situation on part of the organisers. Other cities decided differently and allowed planes to land. Newspapers published headlines reading "Look Berlin, that's how it's done." Merkel didn't have anything to do with this. However, you're right (and I live in Germany, so I think I know "a few things" about this) that Trump's administration is viewed rather critically, but then again numerous countries do that. Speaking of support: I don't see why Washington should be supported in their urge to go to war with Iran. That's just insane (but that's a different topic).

 

I based my conclusion on something you yourself even already acknowledged, does exist; the contentious relationship between Germany and the USA

That's right.

Which is why I have never, once, claimed Markel/Parliament were behind this ordeal.

...or...

Made sure that they strategically did nothing, whatsoever, but sat back on their hands/silently watching the event end in failure

Well then you can call Markel/German Parliament, insane, since they are just exactly like the USA. Yes.

Germany and the USA are both going to, happily, go to war with Iran and its thanks to one (1) sole word; Israel!

 

This "contentious relationship between Germany and the USA" has nothing to do with the commemoration of the airlift and I've explained that more than sufficiently. Unfortunately you simply ignore these facts. That's up to you, not my problem.
This is going nowhere and I'll just leave it that.

 

By attacking Poland, Germans attacked Britain.

 

Jealousy does make people haters...

 

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when its in our best interests of course we should defend our allies

Though you may not agree on what is our best interest

 

The Greatest Generation did not have a crystal ball that allowed them to see the future

But it would be interesting to see what would have happened if hilter had been allowed to keep his half of poland while stalin got the other half without GB declaring war

So why dont you use your all-seeing eye to tell us how that would have worked out?

 

Aside from making fun of your post? Nah... no other point. Is what I do, make fun of Liberals and their posts.

 

Why was Merkel invited, and attended Omaha Beach few weeks ago? Was it not embarrassing for her to be there?

 

Because.

 

Post 390. We do not engage into a smear campaign against Germany. Your post is anti-American.

 

Most of these posts demonstrate one reason our species is destined to achieve it’s own extinction, mindless tribalism armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons. .

 

Obviously there is no way to know the answer, but my best guess is that Germany would have eventually invaded Soviet Russia and crushed the Bolsheviks in Moscow. Or, at the very least, Germany would have set up a series of alliances and protectorates throughout eastern Europe that served to keep communist influence bottled up in Asia. Instead, commie cancer was allowed to spread across half of Europe, including the entirety of Poland, for almost five decades. Patton arrived at similar conclusions after he occupied western Berlin. Mysteriously, Patton was assassinated before he could voice his concerns back in the US, in front of the American people.

 

How is it anti-American?

 

Britain and Poland were two independent nations, so an attack on one is not an attack on the other. This is basic stuff dude.

 

What do people in Switzerland or Canada or Norway or Australia have to be jealous about, exactly?

 

How is it in the interests of Americans to fight wars for Israel and Saudi Arabia?

 

I'm far more conservative than you are. You, like so many other Republicans, are a progressive when it comes to foreign policy. You have NOTHING in common with the founders like Washington and Jefferson. They practiced and preached NEUTRALITY, which is the exact opposite of what you believe. You're from the foreign policy school of Woodrow Wilson and the Roosevelts. They were progressives, NOT conservatives. You're a progressive.

 

I have no idea how she feels about it, but if she had chosen not to attend, I wouldn't have cared.

 

Yeah, but the question of "initiation" is often highly contextual, especially when you're talking about the interactions between entire nations over long periods of time. And when you view WWII in its larger historical context, the problem of assigning blame becomes far murkier than many would like to admit.

It's actually highly relevant since Churchill was the primary instigator and driver of the British war effort. Things would have been radically different absent Churchill's influence. Every time British leaders tried to negotiate or conciliate with Germany, Churchill obstructed them and pushed for war. Saying that Churchill is not responsible for anything that happened ignores literally everything Churchill did during his time in government.

That's not a fact though. It's an opinion. And I strongly disagree with your opinion. The mere fact that the UK and France declared war on Germany instead of the other way round makes Britain at least partially to blame, if not wholly to blame. The invasion of Poland by Germany and Russia was not a "world" war. It only became a "world" war when the British empire declared war on Germany.

It's a textbook example of millions of innocent people being killed by the British empire and Churchill specifically.

How is it "expansionism" for Germans to govern a city full of Germans? The fight between Germany and France over Alsace and other territories on the French-German border goes back centuries. Who had the legitimate claim? Who the hell knows? The fact that the French government was exercising control over those territories at the time was not proof of legitimate ownership anymore than Soviet control over Poland was proof of legitimate ownership.

 

And meanwhile german scientists merrily contine working the bugs out of new superweapons that can deliver atomic bombs to any nation that displeases nazi germany in the future

A world dominated by fascist socialists is no better than one dominated by marxist socialists

 

I would not want to see iran control all the oil in the middle east any more than we wanted the old soviet union to in its day

In the case of the mullahs in tehran they believe that islam must conquor the world and its their misdion to accomplish that

And that is one of thefew things persians and arabs agree on

Israel is a modern western democracy and the only one in the middle east now or in the foreseeable future

Just their innovations in science and agricukture make them a valueable assest to the United States and the world

 

Here's some basic stuff for you too, dude.

Agreement of Mutual Assistance between the United Kingdom and Poland.-London, August 25, 1939.

Should one of the Contracting Parties become engaged in hostilities with a European Power in consequence of aggression by the latter against that Contracting Party, the other Contracting Party will at once give the Contracting Party engaged in hostilities all the support and assistance in its power.