In My Opinion, As The Fourth of July approaches, My I just say:

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  1. Pardon_Me

    Pardon_Me Banned

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    We are no longer the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave... we are not a "Melting Pot". We are divided into two groups. Those who hate Trump and those who don't. Well, at least online it feels like we are divided that way...

    In my real life it seldom comes up. I don't hang with my friends and talk about how much we hate this or that about America.... We mostly just talk about our lives, our kid's, or the best course of action we can take to get get us where we need to be in order to feel like we are living somewhat happy, decent lives...

    I don't give a rats ass if Crooked Hillary goes to jail or not. She is not even a blip on my radar, at this point. Let her do the Herky-jerky at obscure book signing... who the hell cares? Her hubby can get clandestine blow jobs at some seedy motel 8 to his hearts content for all we care....

    Obummer? His anti-american reign is over, his wife no longer influences what my kid eats at school, so I have no need to even entertain a thought about that ex-smoker (who didn't really quit lol! ). *Drop Mike* Hahahaha! ( He's become the "joke" he tried to make).

    Donald Trump has been the most refreshing, entertaining, eye opening, influential, president we've had in a long time. Pick on his wife, pick on his kids if your feeling butt hurt...but you can never change the fact that he won. In spite of all the whiny, cry baby libs with their runny rainbows dripping with salty tears, we won. And America stands a fighting chance because of it.
     
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    Hey, welcome to the previous administration. We have been waiting for you. :cheerleader:
     
  3. ImNotOliver

    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    Actually the country is divided between those who fall for the right wing propaganda and those who don't.

    Hillary who? Why is it that conservatives are always stuck in the past?
     
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    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually the country is divided between those who fall for the left wing propaganda and those who don't.

    Bush who? Why is it that leftists are always stuck in the past?
     
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    opion8d Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That would imply that all that has gone before Trump, all 250 years, wasn't to your liking. Pick on his wife and kids? When was that an issue, btw, his kids are middle aged. I would like an answer to one simple question Trumpets seem to have trouble defining -- when Trumps says, "Make America Great Again," is that a particular point in time, some mental attitude, some event driven period? I think it's important to know what you wish for don't you?
     
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    Read your post carefully. Do you see any examples that others may interpret as hate? Do you see any statements that are widening this division? You see a problem here, what are you willing to do to help allivate it?
     
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    And apparently those who still hate Hillary and Obama. Did you not pick up on that as you were writing your post? Hahaha....d'oh
    Clearly the divide is a result of BOTH sides hating on the other side. That much is very clear. To act like the Right doesn't hate on the Left is just asinine and beyond biased.
     
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    Propaganda, fear tactics and by any means necessary are the Libs' mantra. Hillary just can't let it go---not Republicans. She just can't believe that she lied and cheated to destroy Trump in an attempt to win and STILL FAILED.
     
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    I'd rather say it's long past the time:

    That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government

    when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government


    Because:

    The history of the present (and past Presidents, Congress and Judiciary) is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

    He (and they) has refused his Assent to Laws (and especially the Constitution and the Bill of Rights), the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.


    He (and they) has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.


    He (and they) has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation


    And they have been at war for almost the entire time of the existence of our nation, committing all sorts of war crimes and other human rights atrocities resulting in the massacre of millions of innocent men, women and children for the purpose of personal power and profit. And they have subjected The People to endless taxes on just about everything to fund these barbaric atrocities and further enrich select corporations and the .001%, well beyond what our founders suffered, at the expense of The People.
     
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    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    Hillary who?
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    She's the woman leftists are now embarrassed they voted for.

    Maybe it's just misogyny.
     
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  12. Foxfyre

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    I'm pretty much on the same page as you are.

    I am angry and frustrated at those who would completely trash the country and care nothing for the consequences or who gets hurt in their blind rage and intent to destroy a lawfully elected and inaugurated President of the United States. A President who has done far more good in America in 2-1/2 years than any President in my very long memory accomplished in eight years.

    But in my everyday life I see little or none of that. Sometimes there is an over-the-top malicious FB post among friends and relatives but those are pretty rare. For the most part people are prospering, enjoying life, celebrating a new job or a raise or paying off a mortgage and/or other happy occasions. Most troubles are wind, hail, flood damage or an auto accident or an illness or death of a loved one, but would you believe nobody is being harmed by government policy or leadership these days. I sure couldn't say that during a lot of the Obama Administration or the GW Bush Administration.

    Long live President Trump. We'll survive the inevitable missteps and mistakes, but so far, for the most part, you have done nothing but good for America. Here's to the rest of this term and then four more years!
     
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    The author of the above words epitomizes the cancer that is eating away at this nation today. And the truly scary aspect of this is not your righteousness, or arrogance, or disrespect for others...it is the fact that you are clueless about the Constitution and disrespectful to the traditions and long-standing honor held by the USA. Actually, the US is a melting pot, it is the land of the free, and home of the brave. Based on this webpagehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_approval_rating Trump is actually the worst president in history. All the righteous babble about Dems and blind support of Reps, and your vitriol, and your diatribe, can't take away the FACTS! Personally I don't care if Trump is in office or Humpty-Dumpty; whoever is the occupant of the Oval Office, if they disrespect the US institution, they will be hated.

    BTW; just for shits and grins, do you think YOU would be doing an exemplary job as president, if ONE-HALF of the people hated you? According to you every other person in the USA hates Trump...I suggest if you truly believe this you might want to explore why so many Americans hate the guy? This would be much more productive than just dismissing those who hate him...
     
  14. BobbyJoe

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    Your rant is pretty ironic...you start off as if it's a shame we are divided, going on about the 4th of July and all...

    and then you proceed to be completely divisive.

    Nice.
     
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    Is that how you felt when Trump and so many others trashed President Obama over his 8 years?

    Is that how you felt when Trump trashed this country for the last 30 years or so?
     
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    May I just say: Happy Birthday!

    The 4th is one of the days my family comes together from far flung places. A blue and while collar crowd from 16 months old to 87 years old, and from northern, southern, and western states.

    Other than a cousin telling everyone his brother—a right wing loon, “says the dumbest stuff” annually. We spend our time catching up with each other’s lives, gorging on a picnic spread, and watching fireworks.

    Happy Birthday U.S.A!
     
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    I did not trash President Obama. I criticized his policy most of which I saw as Marxist socialist, ineffective at best, destructive at worst. But I tried not to make it personal against Obama, the man.

    I do get really amused though at those who blamed George W. Bush for every bad thing, everything that went wrong in the Obama Administration for the entire eight years while giving Obama credit for everything good that happened. And now they are giving Obama all the credit for anything good that happens in the Trump Administration, but anything that goes wrong is all Trump's fault.

    How do you reason with people that naive, that partisan, that ideological? I just pat them consdecendingly on the head and hope they don't reproduce.
     
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    Whether you did or not, you do have to realize that is exactly what most Trump supporters did and do, including Trump...

    especially Trump, who attacks everyone personally day in and day out to an absurdly childish degree, and has done so for decades. And he has attacked America for decades.

    The irony around here is never ending.
     
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