Trump's Four Obstruction of Justice Crimes 100% proven in the Mueller Report

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  1. ibobbrob

    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    He does not remain innocent as Mueller said that Trump has not been exonerated. That means that Trump is not innocent and that questions remain that need to be answered.
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Theres no violations because there was no crime to obstruct.

    The only thing I see is a pile of straws and democrats desperately grabbing for them.
     
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    He certainly remains innocent...the burden is on the moving party to prove beyond a reasonable doubt he isn't. Mueller clearly said he couldn't even determine a crime took place.

    This Stalinist view that the DNC is now following in regards to poltical rivals is rather scary.....to be far it started under Obama, so it's not really new...but wow....it's really scary.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Conspiracy with a foreign nation to interfere in our election is a crime. Mueller wouldn't even have to state that. It's in the law!

    Did you have a point?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Mueller begs to differ.
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    And he's going to testify all about it.

    Soon.

    Any day now.

    3... 2... 1...

    Never.
     
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    Oh gee, one day you will see the truth because any ordinary person would be going to jail.
     
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    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    I think you should check the view that Trump is following concerning his political rivals. It's sickening.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Testify about what? It's all on his report!

    Do you even know how trials work? When have you seen a prosecutor testifying?
     
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    How would his being replaced have stopped the investigation and quote him saying it would have. He must think QUITE highly of himself to believe the investigation could ONLY proceed if he was at the helm.
     
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    Tell it to this guy.
     
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    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    He is also non-partisan in spite of the Trump supporters' comments due to his findings.
     
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    Well that's your opinion but he was highly conflicted and should have refused the position when offered because of those conflicts. THAT is why Trump wanted another person in that position and he was perfectly correct in that and should have pressed it more. Why not have a SP without any question of a conflict or bias?
     
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    Trump wanted a person who he could control, like Bill Barr. Who are you kidding? Mueller was hardly conflicted, but you are following Trump's lead on this, yes? Do you not have a mind of your own? Mueller is the pillar of the earth and an honorable patriot. trump
    knew that a guy like Mueller is very thorough, couldn't be fooled, and Trump prefers chaos to character. Trump is one lucky con-man.
     
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    No he wanted someone without the blatant conflict, it wouldn't gain him any control he wouldn't even have appointed him Rosenstein would have. Mueller had a previous business dispute with Trump and was turned down for the FBI director, he should never have accepted a job to investigate Trump. If any is that pillar and had not conflicts it was Barr, he would have been a MUCH better pick for the SC office. And if Mueller was so thorough we wouldn't have the report he issue, it would have been definitive determination of all issues. He got that on the collusion, he totally failed on the obstruction. But the AG and DAG and OLC cleared up that matter.
     
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    Obviously, the matter has not been cleared up by a long shot. Mueller had retired from the FBI years ago and ceased discussions with Trump because he was going to take the SC job and was the perfect candidate. Rosenstein did appoint Mueller to the position. Barr definitively is conflicted by his conduct since he got the job as AG. He is Trump's lap dog.
     
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    Usually you have to commit a crime to go to jail.

    Gestapo much?
     
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    again, clearly you didn't read the report...he clearly stated that the report did not conclude the President committed a crime. You lost.
     
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    The only people still talking about Mueller and his findings are the Dems that can't accept them. No obstruction, no conspiracy.....

    but hey call Hope Hicks out to testify just one more time....that will be the time you nail Trump
     
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    Barr and is doing all he can to suppress it.
     
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    Remember Nixon firing Cox? Trumps attempts to fire Mueller were quite similar and ended up getting Nixon tossed out and into the garbage bin of History. What Nixon did was pretty tame compared to what the crooks Trump surrounded himself with, (Manafort, Flynn, Cohen, Gates, Sater and others) did. The more we find out about Trump and his connections to Russian crooks and spies the better for America in my book. I hope Congress keeps digging into it.
     
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    Hahaha they never will! They don’t want to actually hear what he has to say
     
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    :omfg: AG Barr isn't "suppressing" anything related to obstruction of justice. AG Barr has refused to comply with the unlawful request to provide grand jury material. None of that material has anything to do with obstruction of justice. The Mueller report confirms that, and Bob Mueller conveyed that fact directly when he addressed the media. There is no grand jury material concerning obstruction of justice. Everyone received the information, but apparently some aren't able to process the information they've been given.
     
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    You seem a bit touchy. It all of Mueller's testimony is in his report, why were the dems clamoring to drag Mueller in front of them for further questioning? Perhaps your unhappiness over your 2016 tragic election loss has clouded your thought process.
     
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