I still think Momentum are racist against Israel and Jewish communities. There's been investigations into Labour over this. It's like stupid remarks are considered evil but hate crimes covered up in Labour because it's by Momentum don't exist despite investigations by the police and an anti racism watchdog.
I know it's an infestation of a rotting party being investigated for Racism, having been under investigation by the police for hate crimes and covering them up thus perverting the course of justice and I this is on topic since you think Boris Johnson's off hand remarks are crime of the century or says he's an evil bad man/don't let him be PM; Despite a private argument being spied on by neighbours in a Corbyn stronghold because it's the perceived 'opposition'. .
Rubbish. now quit this. It is against forum rules to try to destroy a thread by taking it off topic especially with nonsense.
Stop diverting my question, where do you get off saying Boris Johnson is a racist given the state of Labour and Momentum at the moment?
This thread is not on Momentum or Labour. It is on Johnson. Either deal with the topic or leave the thread http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?help/terms Also quit the personal attacks. These are not my comments but quotes from others and I am not even a Labour member so why you appear to believe I am responsible for your fantasies with respect to the Labour party I do not know. These are personal attacks. Either join in the discussion of the topic of the thread which is Johnson or leave and stop trying to harass me blaming me for any problems the labour party may or may not have. Harassing people is also against forum rules.
don't they? so what is racially or religiously aggravated offences under the Crime and Disorder Act 1998 or any other offences for which the sentence can be increased under the Criminal Justice Act 2003 if they are classed as a hate crimes...which....wink wink...is being alluded to....so....
You don't get arrested for racism in the UK. I don't know what that particular act is but you can get arrested if you try to incite hatred or violence. Just being racist is not sufficient. Of course there is the reality that what constitutes that could be judged on a level that does not allow racism. Hate crimes of course are different to that. They are doing a crime against someone simply because of their race/sex/religion/sexuality and so on. Certainly how that works in Scotland you get an extra punishment added on top of what you would have get because it is believed it was motivated by race hate. Generally speaking though, racism has not been acceptable in the UK since probably the 80's when things came to the forefront with our Caribbean immigrants reacting against it. At first the right of the Tory party wanted to send them 'home' but then the Scarman Report came out putting the cause into the effect of racism and since then racism has not been acceptable in the UK. We used to have signs in boarding house windows 'No Blacks, No Irish, No Dogs' and that sort of racism is not allowed now.You quite simply cannot expect people to integrate if they are suffering prejudice and hatred for being who they are. On the internet and possibly because this is an American forum, they do not seem to mind how racist anyone is. Here is the thing. Racism is an attitude. At base it is projecting a negative stereotype which one or a few of the group may have and putting that on them on all while believing your race is superior. Generally it is done by the majority against a minority. It seems to have become acceptable to do this to Muslims certainly in some groups in England. I do not believe yet that things have degraded so much that racism is widely accepted, the norm in England. I notice with US posters that this has now moved so that the 'racism' is not just against Muslims but also against blacks. This I suspected would happen. It is an attitude of superiority.
So back to the OP and already the Tories are warning Boris that if he goes for No Deal it will end the Government, there will be a General Election. https://www.theguardian.com/politic...collapse-boris-johnson-pursues-no-deal-brexit another suggested at least 12 Tories would vote to end the Government. and one of the top Tory Donor is now wanting to know what Johnson was up to on Friday. https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-joins-calls-for-boris-johnson-to-explain-row He apparently has given them £4 million in the last 6 years. I didn't think one person could give so much.
Always seems to me that a politician being racist, IS inciting hatred or violence. Why else would any politician in the government of any country be so blatantly antagonistic towards citizens legally in their country? You just need to consider the increase in verbal abuse, threats and violence against people who look like, or sound like, foreigners since the Brexit vote to realise that the utterings of politicians, for people who believe them because they confirm their own biases, are, in their tiny minds,handed carte blanche to act against the "othered" as they want.
'is said to be' being the key. What the constant smearing of Corbyn by the Tories every day by May instead of answering questions at Question Time has done has opened Parliament to the smearing of Politicians. I have been amazed at the way the speaker has allowed all this to go on against Corbyn which is not about racism/antisemitism but about criticism of Israel and that the speaker even tried to stop Blackford on Johnson amazes. Some of the Tories complained that Blackford was allowed to say what he said when the Tories have been doing this against Corbyn almost every day, used when they are losing any argument against Corbyn and in the context of him, has been not to do with racism/antisemitism but with criticism of a country, something which in any free political society is respected- the reality that the Tories could have been smearing Corbyn and others because of their political conscience while condoning genuine racism is probably the most stark evidence of the fact that the British Parliament is no longer democratic.
and we can take this further. The attacks on Chris Williamson's character for his knowledge of the situation in Venezuela and not standing by the Tories/American stance further illustrates that we are no longer a free democratic country.
