Dear Daddy. How sexist jokes can promote violence against women women

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  1. xwsmithx

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    They're really not. Charles Manson and Mother Theresa were not created equal. A Down syndrome child and a Nobel Prize winner were not created equal. Someone born with muscular dystrophy and Usain Bolt were not created equal. Someone who pushes someone in front of a train was not created equal to someone who rescues someone from in front of a train. The best we can do is give everyone an equal opportunity to prove himself a villain or a hero, but to suggest that everyone will make the same choice is to ignore reality.
     
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    I disagree 100%. I have no Down Syndrome -- I have Depression and Autism. Many Social Darwinists claim that a nonproductive person has no value to Society. I can not agree with them.

    One area I disagree with Conservatives 100% is their opposition to helping people in need.
     
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    Can you GET a “lesser standard than Dirty Don?

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    And yet each can and does bring value

    The Nobel prize winner may be an abusive husband whilst the Downs Syndrome child may be a loving person who brightens the day of all they meet
     
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    Because it is almost impossible to find m n that have not rooted thier way across half a state. It comes down to that that is not only accepted for men but is held as a desirable standard. Now look to your own standards here. Why are you not condemning the men for sleeping around instead of the woman for sleeping with them!

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    When “Love island” has couples like this get back to me

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    Should he NOT be held to a higher standard?

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    Bill Clinton.
     
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    Orange man bad though!
     
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    Than Clinton, why should he?
     
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    Really?

    Did he openly boast he could “grab women by the *****”?

    And the “He did it tooooooo?” Excuse is old old old

    Either Trump is a good example or not. Judge each on his or her own merit
     
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    Why should he not?

    You don’t have to match a poor standard
     
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    Most child abuse in the home is done by women.
     
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    I doubt you can find any genuine social Darwinists in this day & age. And conservatives don't oppose helping people in need, we oppose helping people more than they need. When you have women with children who have been on welfare for years without ever having had a job or a husband, something is seriously wrong with the system.

    *shrugs* I won't argue with that, I simply reject the notion that everyone is created equal.

    I was responding specifically to the claim that it was a sexually demeaning attitude. And it isn't at all impossible to find such men, they abound. When the average number of women each man has slept with is six (a questionable figure when the average number of men each woman has slept with is two, making the likely number for each more like four), and some men have slept with a thousand women, there are a lot of men out there who have never had sex or have never had more than one partner.

    "More and more young people are abstaining. No less than 27 percent of 15- to 24-year-old men have never had any form of sexual contact (oral, vaginal, or anal) with another person, up from 22 percent in 2002."

    https://www.livescience.com/13072-sex-stats-virgins-rise.html

    If you really want to find virgin men, I suggest your local church or your local comic book shop or video game shop. But truthfully, no women are looking for virgin men.
     
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    Give me a reason Democrats should hold Trump to a much higher standard? They're the ones trying to do it.
     
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    To his body guards in private conversations he bragged about the women he grabbed, go read David Brock's book. And of course he DID grab women who didn't want to be grabbed as he tried to trade his power as their boss for sex. I've never said Trump is good example of anything but he was talking about consensual acts where Clinton sexually assaulted women who reported to him and threatened one he she talked.
     
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    You wanted Equality right that means standing against men and boys as Equals do what a man would do get a thicker skin or learn to kick a**.
     
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    I am 100% for reciprocal respect. I am against demands of one-sided respect.
     
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    A snowflake is someone expecting respect from others and willing to work not to offend others. I am a snowflake. Snowflakes are made fun of, but that is wrong. Reciprocal respect is a positive value.

    A tyrant demands respect while treating others with great disrespect.
     
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    How dare he say the same kind of stuff any other guy says but be recorded saying it.

    If you don't think guys talk like this you are mistaken. If guys tell you they don't they are lying. If guys really don't they are likely male feminists/sex offenders.
     
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    I would call that politeness. A snowflake is someone who uses the idea that they are offended to try and stop a person from being able to speak.

    Think of the words you dare not say... Think of who they are generally used against. You'll know your oppressor by who you are not allowed to offend. A snowflake is an oppressor. The word snowflake is used to try and deride them. As well as others that you aren't allowed to say here.

    You aren't a snowflake, you just appreciate polite conversation. I respect that.
    Snowflake is an attempt to deride potential tyrants. That's why the word has been discussed as "hate speech." As well as NPC, and MOB.
     
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    [Wrong thread]
     
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    Girls are even worse in this regard.
     
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    Charlie Sheen? Yikes.

    There are several factors involved in women's choices for partners. I'll try to make it short.

    1. Women seem to like different types of men for short term and long term relationships - or, simply put, one type for fun and another type for marriage. Attractive, socially skilled and experienced men are better for fun.

    2. A virgin is perceived as someone who doesn't know how, or doesn't want, to interact with women. Lack of communication and social skills does not an attractive male make.

    3. Parental investment, while still very important, is less a concern due to contraceptives. Women can have sex for fun in short term relationships with men nowadays.
     

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