Warmongers in Washington badly want a war with Iran

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  1. Hoosier8

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    Oh, you mean actually doing what he promised. Of course that is alien to democrat voters.
     
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    I never claimed oil supply from this area is not important, I merely stated the fact that this region in general and opec I particular no longer control oil prices and I gave multiple sources for this claim
     
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    They still got almost 3/4 of the world oil supply, and only pump out something like 40%. The ENTIRE idea that the US is in that strait is because of OPECs grip on the oil price. And you can source what you want,... doesn't change a dang thing that the US is in that strait because of OPECs grip on the oil price. They are there because 21% of all the oil goes through that place. If it wasn't such a big deal, than the US wouldn't go the the UNSC about them 2 tankers who got bombed there.
     
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    I believe I said the oil in that area is still important. Did you miss that?
     
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    You seem to have disagreed just because the US produces a lot of oil in a way it will be immune to the cost of oil on the world market, if the crap goes down in that strait.
     
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    The warmongers would not be able to exert this amount of pressure if it was not for the additional support they have coming from within the Democratic Party.
     
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    Immune no but opec no longer has us over a barrel, an oil barrel in this case and the Muslim countries are not as critical to world supply as they once were. We can now afford to do the right thing in Iran without fears that will destroy the world's economy.
     
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    You're wrong with that. OPEC got 80% of the oil reserves of the world.

    Do "the right thing".... IN iran. Right. Sounds like your idea of the right thing is that the US gets to support Jews ethnically cleansing Arabs. The US gets to support a genocide in Jemen. And Iran must be a colony of the US, as what it was under their puppet of a Shah. That's being on the wrong side.
     
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    "The Organization of Petroleum-Exporting Countries (OPEC) is no longer a "viable entity" following its refusal to cut oil production in November, Dennis Gartman, founder and editor of the closely-watched The Gartman Letter, told CNBC on Tuesday. "I really do think that we have seen the end of OPEC as a viable entity," Gartman told CNBC Europe's "Squawk Box" on Tuesday. "I think it's still broken. We'll see what happens in a year from now but I honestly think that OPEC, as it has been in the past, is a finished issue."

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/opec-broken-dennis-gartman-070040613.html

    The right thing is to stop Iran from spreading terrorism and getting nukes.
     
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    Didn't he promise to keep you out of foreign wars?

    I'm not a democrat voter.
     
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    Let us know what foreign war he has started.
     
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    The US is still there because 21% of all the oil flowing through the straits is their major interest. And OPEC has twice as much going. And it got 4 times more oil than the rest. End of the day,.. that's why the US is there.

    The right thing would be, the US not starting an other war. The previous 2 in the middle east have been a disaster.
     
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    What is the evidence for this?
     
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    We shut down the terror networks that attacked us and both Iraq and Afghanistan are on a more democratic path now than they were previously, so I wouldn't say those wars have been anything close to a disaster. Just can't expect a war to turn out all pretty and perfect, because it's rather the opposite by nature and really should not be viewed as a solution in modern times. It is barbaric for a supposedly intelligent species such as ours to resort to mass tribal murder as a matter of policy.
     
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    Warmongers in Washington badly want a war with Iran.

    One would assume that warmongers want a war with anybody. I wouldn't worry. Neither North Korea or Iran will see an American military action. Eventually, the U.S. will accept the nukes.
     
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    It's a sad day for America when being as close as possible to a war with Iran without actually being in a war is seen as a sign of restraint and progress.
     
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    :roflol:
     
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    I'm pretty happy about that, though laughing would be an odd way to celebrate it. It has come at a great human cost.
     
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    You're peddling fantasies with no basis in fact, as usual.
     
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    Accusing me of doing what you do will get you nowhere.
     
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    Al Qaeda is more extensive now than it ever was. It even managed to spawn a variety of noxious offshoots like ISIS. Your claim that "we" (naturally you had nothing to do with it, having never served a day in your life) shut down the terror networks that attacked the US on 9/11 is demonstrably and palpably false. That you would peddle such risible propaganda is both comical and disturbing.

    As for your repulsive attempts to prettify and justify the disastrous wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, that is simply beneath contempt and not even worthy of a serious rebuttal as no one with even half a brain will believe it.
     
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    Not really.
     
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    It's a sadder day for America when certain Americans are praying for a war with a big American body count, because they don't like the Bad Orange Man.

    Admit it, you really want war and economic catastrophe. Be honest with yourself.
     
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