Trump's Four Obstruction of Justice Crimes 100% proven in the Mueller Report

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    "Substantial evidence" is a "technicality"?

    That's a new one. Doesn't make enough sense to take it seriously. So I can't even include it in the list of "Trump cultist made-up excuses". But at least it's,... kinda different. Zero points for logic, but you get a few for creativity.
     
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    Why don't the Republicans denounce his horrible words and actions?
     
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    There are no horrible trump words or actions to denounce
     
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    It proved Trump committed incest with Ivanka!
     
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    Golem, they know this. They can't admit to it because it would wipe out their entire obligation to support and defend Trump. So they're running from it, denying it, and pretending you need to explain it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. They lost long ago and they know it. But they also know that as long as they can keep us arguing the point, they can ensure it's never settled.
     
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    You have a tendency to exaggerate. Virtually nothing in this world is 100%. There are a number of assumptions included that statement. It assumes that Mueller got everything right. it assumes that all the witnesses got everything right and did not lie or make a single error.
     
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    And what did Mueller say about THAT? Here... tell me how such a charged president could defend himself, prove it, and make it stick?
    That is done in a legal proceeding, ... a hearing and/or trial. But he can't defend himself as a legal action if he can't be charged. So if Mueller were to lay it out as you said, that constitutes a CHARGE against Trump BUT A SITTING PRESIDENT CAN'T BE INDICTED, --or so Mueller concluded. Would it be fair to so charge a person who cannot defend himself?
     
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    I submit that this, then, is a serious issue. If it is uncertain that Mueller "got everything right", then all Mueller's 4 claims, data, assertions, etc. need to be examined, investigated, and decided since they are serious. Don't you agree?
     
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    The situation with BABIES and INFANTS and small children at the border is fine with you? His rejection and insults of our allies while sucking up to dictators is ok with you? His rejection of our several Intel organizations' data and unqualified acceptance of the word of a KGB former spy is ok with you? His unilateral acts including nearly starting a pointless war is ok with you?

    ARE YOU SERIOUS????
     
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    That is all made up bullshit that is easily wiped away for anyone with any honesty and objectivity to see, and we have. Nothing you said here is true. You're just doing your Trumpian job of stretching it out to make sure it isn't settled in spite of the validity of Mueller's report.
     
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    The situation where he was finally able to Nancy P to cave and give him emergency funding to fix?

    I have no problem with him calling out allies that have been taking advantage of us, or working with NK to insure they don't get the bomb.

    He has started no war. You might be thinking of Obama.

    I have no problem with him trying to ease tensions with the Russians, in light of the Red Scare created by sore losers from the DNC
     
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    You have submitted. Now we shall see what happens. I only wish the democrats would get on with it so we could get on with having a government who is not preoccupied with this.
     
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    DON'T YOU AGREE?
     
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    Nothing is gonna happen....Nancy P knows the evidence doesn't support impeachment.
     
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    I absolutely agree with what I just said.
     
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    So you're afraid to agree or disagree with my post #283. Figures. You can't. So instead you play your silly games like a high schooler might. Truth is you are trapped by my question and you're desperately trying to escape with GAMES.

    Bottom line is that Congress needs to begin impeachment inquiries to prove out these things one way or the other. And what's more, you're signalling that you know it.
     
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    Which he's supposed to have done but didn't. He made a decision which is not part of his remit. Whether he thinks Trump is exonerated or not, that's irrelevant. He was hired to gather the facts, give it to the Attorney General and the Attorney General informs Congress the outcome via a report.

    But numpty Mueller opened his gob and the democrats have been frothing at the mouth since. What a right mess.
     
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    Extremely weak comment. I explained that 100% means that it meets all the requirements for conviction (act, nexus, intent). As opposed to the other six which lack one or two of those elements. And nothing about the content.

    Try again...
     
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    They know it. But they need to get used to it. That's how we preempt the unavoidable whining we'll get when Trump "martyrdom rants" start as he's dragged to prison.
     
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    Believe it or not, I think the guy is serious. Sad, but true.
     
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    I don't know what you're talking about. Mueller did what?

    I'm willing to bet even you don't know what you're talking about.
     
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    That is exactly what I said. Congress needs to do whatever they are going to do so we get back to having a useful government.
     
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    Again. An exaggeration. That may be true in your mind, but not in this world.
     
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    I like your irony. I quoted a bit from your OP and my reply is by an American attorney. It might be wise for you to read and recap on your OP. Apologises for going too fast.
     
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    This is why there is a 25th Amendment. The fact that Pence hasn't appealed to it means that even Impeachment and removal of this President doesn't guarantee a working government.
     
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