Alabama’s Draconian Abortion Ban Has Women On Twitter Ready To Fight

She has multiple blood clotting genetic problems, some of them rare. One that us many have (not me or our daughter would have it) is Factor V Leiden. As I said, she had multiple genetic issues. She has been on warfarin for more than forty years.

 

Nasty, dismissive, judgmental, sanctimonious, misogynistic, and ultimately futile. Women are increasingly unwilling to be pressured into continuing pregnancies. If we want to cut down on the number of abortions, we need to address the factors causing women to seek them. Are you prepared to do that or are you a pro-lifer who thinks you're going to stop abortion by passing laws?

 

Women in states where abortion is unavailable are getting financial help to travel to states where they can get one. Does that get your attention?

Are you prepared to make it available to poor women?

Try to be realistic.

What should we do to encourage women to continue their pregnancy?

Red herring. What will you do to encourage them not to abort?

 

"SEEKNG" late term abortions NOT getting them ...and you NEVER said what "late term" means.....

 

Why the "deadly silence"....it's very telling





What TF are you talking about???

Kill who at what "stage"? The stage they go to an orphanage ? !? WTF....


Why do you appear to be advocating for murder???????

 

I taught sex education for many years in New York City and it should be required everywhere. The misinformation was alarming

 

I taught sex ed to mixed classes at the beginning of my career for a few years, and my wife taught it to high school girls for 30+ years as part of family studies. She taught in a very conservative community and would drag a condom and s-t-r-e-t-c-h it out in front of the girls in her class. She said it got their attention even though they word got out and they were ready for it. I don't know how she did it, but she got the pastor of a HUGE Baptist church to enrol his daughters, one after another, in her course. She did it all with them, more than the curriculum called for--how to, contraception, abortion, knowing when you're ready, attitudes, emotions, and so on. She never had a complaint as far as I know.

Sex ed should be part if the curriculum. Parents who want to know should be given a rundown on the curriculum, but no veto except to pull their kid out of class. Most parents would rather leave most of the "talk" to the school. "What does it feel like, mom, and how often do you do it?" was more than enough for many mothers in my wife's community?

 

""" But I love how you try to strip women of personal responsibility. Like they are some just idiots who dont know any better, and cant help but get pregnant"""


Banning abortion says that women are just idiots who can't take care of their own reproductive system and must be controlled like animals.

Banning abortion certainly strips women of responsibility...if they are forced to gestate why would they care how that fetus is taken care of in the womb.....why would they care about supporting it after it's born??




.if they are forced to gestate which is a form of the government OWNING their bodies then the kid they have should be supported by the government from conception to cradle to grave.

 

Against, other than in cases of rape or when it's required to protect life. Why?

 

"No woman of boards?" What's "boards?"

 

Why not in the case of rape?

 

Renee said: ↑
This is such a silly strawman argument. No woman of boards one minute before birth so stop doing those silly “what if’s”

It's obvious that she meant aborts.

And no woman aborts one minute before birth so she is correct, a silly strawman argument.

 

Adopted kids at the point at which they don't think they have any value. This is what the poster was talking about.

 

You asked an incredibly ****** question:
chris155au said: ↑
So then why not just let the mother arrange to have them killed before it gets to that stage?"""




What TF are you talking about???




Why do you appear to be advocating for murder???????

 

Using such arguments is saying that women are idiots who have no self control, have no responsibility, and cant help themselves but to get pregnant.

 

For the sake of this debate, it's all abortions after 20 weeks

I personally think the cut off limits should be after the brain develops brain function. At 6 weeks

 

The UNcherry picked post :
Banning abortion says that women are just idiots who can't take care of their own reproductive system and must be controlled like animals.

Banning abortion certainly strips women of responsibility...if they are forced to gestate why would they care how that fetus is taken care of in the womb.....why would they care about supporting it after it's born??




.if they are forced to gestate which is a form of the government OWNING their bodies then the kid they have should be supported by the government from conception to cradle to grave.

NO, it is not.....that would be Anti-Choicers who say that....as I have shown in my COMPLETE post above.

My argument is that women have a right to their own bodies, a right YOU enjoy.....does that mean YOU are irresponsible with no self control ??

 

LEGAL cut off is 23-24 weeks …"LEGAL" = the only thing that COUNTS.


Most women don't even know if they are pregnant at 6 weeks....and why do YOU choose 6 weeks? Isn't a life a life??????????

 

Americans of child bering age have sex about 40 million times a year. With a 3%+ failure rate of birth control, that means the potential of over 100,000 unplanned pregnancies. Being responsible isn't always the problem. And we are talking married couples as well as single women.

If a woman doesn't have a maternal instinct for that particular fetus, isn't it her own body telling her that she isn't ready? How is that different than a miscarriage? It's just a conscious decision rather than an unconscious one. No different for the fetus whether it was a conscious decision or not. Still termination.

Carrying a fetus to term is difficult enough on a woman's body and mental state without being FORCED to do it.

And we haven't even touched the problems of rape ( less than 50% of rapes are reported) or women with mental or physical conditions that make causing to term very problematic. Trying to fit all women (and every uterus) into this preconceived box of health and mental state is stupid. It just isn't the real world.

 

FWIW, I have discovered that NaturaLamb [brand] condoms are fantastic. They are stronger than latex condoms and feel like you're wearing nothing at all - at least as close as you can get. I HATED using condoms until I discovered these . They are spendy - $5 a pop - but worth every penny.

I would bet they have a very low failure rate. The only catch is that they don't provide as much protection against STDs. They are intended for people in established relationships.

 

Because your last post was confusing.

 

The brain does NOT develop brain function at six weeks

 

Sometimes that is the case

Alcohol may “give th the desire but take th away the ability” in some in others it just lowers inhibition

 

It's funny how the people who advocate most loudly for abortions are those most severely misinformed.

"The early signs of a brain have begun to form. Even though the fetus is now developing areas that will become specific sections of the brain, not until the end of week 5 and into week 6 (usually around forty to forty-three days) does the first electrical brain activity begin to occur."

https://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/19/books/chapters/the-ethical-brain.html

 

If the mother is so incredibly stressed emotionally or physically that she decides to abort at 20 weeks, then I'm doubtful of a successful pregnancy anyways.

My view its that of someone who used to document crime scenes - one of those was a 16 year-old girl who had committed suicide. Her friends later said she was so stressed about hiding her growing signs of pregnancy from her parents, that she became unstable. Had she chosen to terminate the fetus rather than herself? There is no one stance fits all when it comes to the fear and uncertainty of pregnancy. Options need to be left open to account for those who do not develop a maternal instinct or who have other mental factors that make carrying to term problematic.