Alabama’s Draconian Abortion Ban Has Women On Twitter Ready To Fight

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Derideo_Te, May 16, 2019.

  1. Fallen

    Fallen Well-Known Member

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    As you guys pointed out, late abortions account for 1.3% of all abortions.

    1.3% of 100,000 is better than 1.3% of 650,000

    Never mind that you're missing the biggest point. I, like most Americans agree that if you are going to have an abortion, do it immediately. Most pregnancy test detect pregnancies 1 week after conception.

    No one FORCED the woman to have sex and get pregnant. So stop using that word. Once she DOES get pregnant and waits past a certain point, she no longer has a say. The baby in the womb is not "the womans body". Unless you want to make an argument that the woman has 2 heads, 4 lungs, 4 arms, 4 legs, 2 different blood types, 2 different DNAs, etc.

    The fact that you guys think that it's ok to kill this living moving baby out of convenience is pure evil
     
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    Less than 50% of rapes are reported - so you will never know if a woman requesting an abortion was forced to be pregnant or not - unless you want to FORCE her to report the rape - which is basically FORCING her to do something against her will - which makes YOU as EVIL as the rapist.
     
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    The brain is not fully developed until birth to 3yrs. While in the womb, all body parts are developing.
     
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    I took those kind of “sex Ed classes...they were under “health class” My class was strictly sex education where kids journaled to me and asked questions they couldnt aks anyone else. I have some very sad stories but I also have some very funny stories. And your suggestion is an excellent one about running the curriculum past the parents. I think that was very important. In all my years of teaching I had one parent remove her child from the class because I refused to say that homosexuality was a sin. I told her that I tell them that it’s not good, that it’s not bad… That it just is and nothing more.Sadly I’ve picked up too much sexual abuse but my kids knew that if they wrote something to me where I thought they were in danger I had to report it The reality is the written word is easier than talking to someone and that was the advantage of the journals.
     
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    If that is the case then why are you not supporting interventions that would make very early abortions easier and cheaper to obtain? Hell! Why not make LARCs easier and cheaper to obtain?
     
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    Oh! I agree and you have just proven your own point, multiple tomes on this thread and in particular here where you are using an article in a newspaper to validate your point.

    You want to quote something on embryology then go to the UNSW embryology site.

    Electrical activity is NOT brain function. It has been more than 30 years since we used EEGs as a determinate for brain death
     
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    Making abortion “illegal” does not stop legal abortions and it certainly does not stop illegal abortions. In fact you suddenly will have LESS control, due to difficulties of access and affordability you WILL have later term abortions if they become illegal and even forced abortions. The sad truth seen worldwide is that where abortions are illegal then women are mutilated. Ask yourself why a woman would choose to risk life and limb to have an illegal abortion and you may come close to understanding it
     
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    No, taking away a person's right to their own body ( slavery and banning abortion) are both wrong.....looks like you believe in both since they ARE the same thing.
     
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    What makes them less protective against STDs?
     
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    Well it was a question - if they are so miserable, why not just let the mother arrange to have them killed before it gets to that stage?
     
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    I'm not. You are in the mind of pro-lifers, given that abortion to them is murder.
     
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    Because it wasn't a consensual act of procreation, so I believe that the life is of less value. However, this is based on the woman presumably wanting to abort the second she knows that she is pregnant after the rape. If she continued with the term and then changed her mind after viability, then I would be against abortion.
     
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    What exactly do you consider "Viability" as no abortions take place after medical viability as far as I know?
     
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    You mean other than to save the life of the mother?
     
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    Again, I'm not clear on whether the actual birthing process caused some problems, or if it was just continuing with the term all the way until the end, in which case the damage was already done and the actual birth didn't make matters worse.
     
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    It's not a strawman. I'm just saying that if someone strictly only ever calls it a "baby" AFTER birth,
    then logically they would NOT call it a baby one minute PRIOR to birth, or even as it's traveling down the birth canal, which is ridiculous!
     
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    Yes......
     
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    What I'm saying is that if there was a law which said that abortion can be provided all the way until birth including in cases of rape, I would be against it.
     
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    Do we call it a cake before we bake it?
     
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    So would everyone else, including law enforcement....that is a non issue hypothetical distraction from debate.
     
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    You can't even acknowledge that the fetus is ever a child.
     
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    Are you serious? Wouldn't it be taking away women's right to their bodies? It shouldn't matter how late in the term it is, it shouldn't matter what their reason is to abort, at the end of the day it is THEIR body, right?

    Why would law enforcement be against it, if it was the LAW?
     
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    Is the fetus in liquid form one minute prior to birth, like a cake before it's baked? Or is the fetus no different AT ALL one minute prior to birth and after?
     
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    Right wingers don't believe that women should be provided an abortion if their life is in danger?
     
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    Alright then. Living HAPPILY is better than dying. Can you agree to that?
     
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