John Adams on Independence: Celebrate with "Devotion to God"; with "Pomp and Parade...Guns..."

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by MolonLabe2009, Jul 3, 2019.

  1. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2009
    Messages:
    33,092
    Likes Received:
    15,284
    Trophy Points:
    113
    John Adams believed the signing of the Declaration of Independence should be celebrated with "Devotion to God" and with "Pomp and Parade....Guns, Bells, Bonfires and Illuminations"

    It sounds like Trump is no different than our Founding Fathers by having a 4th of July celebration and parade.

    Meanwhile, the hate-America-first left-wingers are doing their best to tear this country apart by destroying our National traditions.
     
    Last edited: Jul 3, 2019
  2. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 19, 2015
    Messages:
    66,099
    Likes Received:
    68,212
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The 4th is a true holiday to Americans.

    It terrifies the left.
     
  3. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 19, 2015
    Messages:
    66,099
    Likes Received:
    68,212
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I learned a ton from this video release...
     
    ButterBalls and MolonLabe2009 like this.
  4. CCitizen

    CCitizen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2014
    Messages:
    7,875
    Likes Received:
    1,875
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Guns are a relatively useless right which has taken 572,000 lives in USA 1999-2016.

    My weapon is a pen/iPod. Speech and information guarantee Freedom.
     
    clarkeT likes this.
  5. BobbyJoe

    BobbyJoe Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2016
    Messages:
    5,823
    Likes Received:
    1,888
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We've been doing this very thing every year since forever.

    What's Trump's idea for Thanksgiving, eating turkey until you pass out? How about Trump's idea for Halloween, dressing up in costumes and going around getting candy? The guy really is a genius.
     
    Bowerbird likes this.
  6. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2009
    Messages:
    33,092
    Likes Received:
    15,284
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Useless statistic. Freedom comes with a cost. I will never give up my "right to keep and bear arms"

    You can't fight back against tyranny with a pen.

    And an iPod? What decade are you from?
     
    ButterBalls likes this.
  7. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2009
    Messages:
    33,092
    Likes Received:
    15,284
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Then why are the left-wingers getting their panties all in a bunch for?
     
    ButterBalls likes this.
  8. Mr_Truth

    Mr_Truth Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2012
    Messages:
    33,372
    Likes Received:
    36,882
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Funny that Adams should view the day as a holy day to honor his god while he signed the Alien and Sedition Acts which took liberty away from people. Good thing that he was the only Founding Father who had all that in mind. All others celebrated by having fireworks and saluting toasts to the States.

    Of course, America hating righties all want to deify Trump even though it will cost taxpayers millions. Soon enough as the debt rises they will find yet another way to attribute that to Dems while shouting BLAME OBAMA!
     
    AZ. and Bowerbird like this.
  9. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2009
    Messages:
    33,092
    Likes Received:
    15,284
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I'd rather spend money on celebrating our Independence day instead of it being wasted on a bunch of fat lazy stupid people in the inner cities.
     
    ButterBalls likes this.
  10. WalterSobchak

    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2010
    Messages:
    24,516
    Likes Received:
    21,512
    Trophy Points:
    113
    But you aren't celebrating Independence Day. You are celebrating your false idol. But you do you. I am going to binge stranger things all day tomorrow and bbq. Merica!
     
    rahl and Bowerbird like this.
  11. BobbyJoe

    BobbyJoe Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2016
    Messages:
    5,823
    Likes Received:
    1,888
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Apparently because he's making it about him...like it's one of his stupid rallies.

    Any patriotic person would be disgusted by that. But Trump and his base really aren't patriotic. Just like they aren't really religious, and don't really care about the true meaning of Christmas, etc.
     
  12. Daggdag

    Daggdag Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2010
    Messages:
    15,668
    Likes Received:
    1,957
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Except Trump isn't doing this to celebrate the fourth. He's doing it to praise himself. He's been wanting a military parade for a few years now because he saw Kim Jong Un get one and was jealous. The DOJ spoke out agaijnst it they saw it as a waste of taxpayer money, and a needless display of power that only benefited the President and not the country.

    He's using the fourth of july as an excuse to have the parade, but he's also turning it into an illegal campaign rally. He's personally invited all of his top doners to take part, but also trying to keep political opponents and rivals away. He thinks he gets to dictate whether or not public officials are allowed to attend public events.
     
  13. Distraff

    Distraff Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2011
    Messages:
    10,833
    Likes Received:
    4,092
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You know our founders opposed standing armies right? I wonder what his reaction would be seeing a standing army marching through our capital?
     
  14. Daggdag

    Daggdag Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2010
    Messages:
    15,668
    Likes Received:
    1,957
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    They also opposed the deployment of military forces on US soil for any reason other than to defend against invasion.
     
    WalterSobchak and Bowerbird like this.
  15. ECA

    ECA Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2018
    Messages:
    31,941
    Likes Received:
    15,602
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I’m so glad I don’t live in the city. Much prefer being in rural setting. What I can’t figure out is why there are still so many fat lazy stupid people even out here in the sticks. Oh right, because fat lazy stupid people are everywhere.
     
  16. Mr_Truth

    Mr_Truth Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2012
    Messages:
    33,372
    Likes Received:
    36,882
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male


    farmers and corporate fat cats who are the USA's biggest welfare recipients do not live in the inner cities - but I suppose you hate them, too
     
    AZ. and WalterSobchak like this.
  17. Mr_Truth

    Mr_Truth Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2012
    Messages:
    33,372
    Likes Received:
    36,882
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male


    He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

    https://www.latinorebels.com/2012/0...endence-the-full-text-in-english-and-spanish/




    The 4th of July was created, among other things, to END standing armies. If right wingers were as patriotic as they claim to be, they would join with our Founders. Instead, they side with their deified hero Trump who betrays what our Founder stood for.
     
    WalterSobchak likes this.
  18. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2015
    Messages:
    31,455
    Likes Received:
    34,888
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I'll be watching about 20 different firework displays from my balcony enjoying good food and beer, feeling lucky to have been born in this country ...

    Think I'll skip the self-absorbtion display that will be going on in the Capitol tonight. Trump is the worst of America - The Kardashian President.
     
    Mr_Truth, clarkeT and WalterSobchak like this.
  19. TedintheShed

    TedintheShed Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2010
    Messages:
    5,301
    Likes Received:
    1,983
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I'm not on he left. I own 17 guns. I take the words "shall not be infringed" literally when it comes to gun ownership.

    That said, screw Trump and his plastic patriotism.

    While they were men ahead of their time, it has been proven that the founding fathers great experiment has failed. It is past time to move on. The concepts embodied in the DOI are no longer followed and beloved by the vast majority of the two authoritarian parties in America, nor their blind allegiance of followers. Democrats and Republicans care nothing for those concepts, and their 4th of July pomp is just lip service.
     
    Ethereal likes this.
  20. clarkeT

    clarkeT Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2016
    Messages:
    949
    Likes Received:
    467
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Your inhumanity to your fellow human beings is duly noted.
     
    Mr_Truth, AZ. and WalterSobchak like this.
  21. Mr_Truth

    Mr_Truth Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2012
    Messages:
    33,372
    Likes Received:
    36,882
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male


    Wish I could give you 1,000 good rep points for that comment!
     
  22. Mr_Truth

    Mr_Truth Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2012
    Messages:
    33,372
    Likes Received:
    36,882
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male


    Sad that you are filled with so much hate for the downtrodden.

    Too bad some people in this country fail to adhere to the Bible's teaching about uplifting them - this while claiming to be Christian. What would Jesus say under these circumstances?
     
    AZ. likes this.
  23. Mr_Truth

    Mr_Truth Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2012
    Messages:
    33,372
    Likes Received:
    36,882
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male



    proof, please
     
  24. TedintheShed

    TedintheShed Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2010
    Messages:
    5,301
    Likes Received:
    1,983
    Trophy Points:
    113
    True humanity isn't government enforced with other people's money.
     
    xwsmithx likes this.
  25. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2012
    Messages:
    56,871
    Likes Received:
    22,778
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Celebrate with everything that scares lefties!
     
    ButterBalls and MolonLabe2009 like this.

Share This Page