Antifa attacks in Portland

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  1. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    There are terrorists, who initiate violence. Then, there are those who fight back.

    That's enough for me.
     
  2. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Somehow, you're not grasping the difference between violence and the reaction to violence.
     
  3. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    You don't know that.

    Lefty killed people, too.

    Which has nothing to do with the subject at hand.

    You're deflecting.
     
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  4. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Who are these mythical defenders of Neo-Nazis? I've never seen one.
     
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    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Who do you see defending these mythical Neo-Nazis? Where do you go, that you see this happen?
     
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    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Perhaps you can dig up a report that they actually killed someone?


    Never said that never occurred.

    We are talking about extremists violence are we not? It certain not deflection. Just come out and tell us you support proud boys and be done with it.
     
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    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Driving into a crowd of people injuring them and killing one is ......reaction to violence? laughable.
     
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    Hahahahahahahaha
     
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    Far right extremists are to blame? The Author of the article you site is either a psycho or an idiot.

    Clearly these Antics protesters should have either been dispersed, because it was not a non-violent protest , and then arrested if they did not disperse.
    The State and local Government cannot allow violent protests and that is not what the Constitution provides for.

    I am sorry, but, it is the radical groups that are when the problem, not the Conservatives and not the moderaters. These groups do not condone violence. And the White Supremists are far fewer and not supported by moderate and far right conservatives.

    Look T the organization's member rkster. No members of the Republican Congress. Then look at the roster of members of the Communist Party and Socialist Party of American. Many if not all Democrat Members of Congress are members of bith.

    Antifa organizers should be arrested as should a!I participating in the violence.
     
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    Apparently, you are not aware that the Proud Boys only formed as a reaction to the Antifa-terrorists beating up innocent conservatives.

    Some people got fed up with the violent attacks and formed the Proud Boys in order to fight back.

    If there were no Antifa-terrorists, the Proud Boys would never have formed.

    If the Antifa-terrorists were to be broken up. If they were jailed, en masse for their terrorism. If they were to be disbanded, there would be no reason for the Proud Boys to be more than a drinking club.
     
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    We must accept the beatings?
     
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    You should see the violent right wing gangs that keep coming to Portland. Along side their stars and strips they have Confederate and Nazi flags. Those are your boys. Those innocent conservatives you keep crying about.
     
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    They're fighting terrorists. Why should anyone condemn them?
     
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    Of course we both know that you are just making this up.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proud_Boys

    Here is the Wikipedia page, but I'm sure you won't look as you've already made up your mind, haven't you?

    The Proud Boys are a violent right wing fight club for men who don't get a lot of female attention. They have rallies blaming feminists and liberals for their emasculation, and then go looking for fights. Which they tend to lose because they always quickly become out numbered and have to run to the safety of the police. Your boys, your ideology, on the run. The duplicity of conservative ideology on full display.

    Women, the Proud Boys can't date 'em and can't beat 'em up. You must feel so proud of your side.
     
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    Except... not.

    Provoking a terrorist attack is a weak excuse.

    How about blaming the terrorists, who attacked?
     
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    You start a fight, you get what you get. Try it some time. Gather up a crowd of tough talking conservatives and go into a restaurant and start cursing at everyone, spraying pepper spray, and knocking over people sitting in chairs and see what happens. That is what the Patriot Prayer and the Proud Boys do. Go ahead try it and see if people don't fight back.
     
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    I'm hoping that, at some point, it will begin to dawn on you that free speech is not conditional on what the speech consists of.

    The Proud Boys are based in what is basically a suburb of Portland. Many probably work it the city. That's how it works there.

    Yes, they know that they will be attacked by the Antifa-terrorists. Yes, they are looking for a fight. But, guess what, if the Antifa-terrorists don't attack them, there won't be a fight.

    Maybe you're not seeing the real problem here.
     
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    Link?
     
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    The Proud Boys fight against the Antifa-terrorists.

    Hows that?
     
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    What an imagination!
     
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    No bias from you...
     
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    I am and you keep denying reality. A violent right wing gang, from out of state, they even come in on a bus, calling themselves the Proud Boys, came to Portland to attend a rally defending men accused of sexual assault. They then went looking for a fight and got whupped.

    The funniest part is that they went there, especially the Andy Ngo guy, went there with the intention of making a video of a group of proud Boys beating up AntiFa members. They waded into a crowd that had them out numbered 10 to 1. There were five that were injured. They got beat up, some by girls, lost their camera, and are now crying like babies.

    As the one lady said, you beat fascist with a lot more anti-Fascists. The Proud Boys, a Fascists violent right wing gang came to Portland with the intention of terrorizing Portland and the people of Portland rose up and stopped them. A half a year ago, the Patriot Prayer and the Proud Boys were out there waving their US, Nazi, and Confederate flags, and soon found themselves being chased down the street with perhaps 300 angry citizens chasing them. They ran to the safety of the police who escorted them to their buses, so they could run away to wherever it is they came from.

    Those are your boys, the terrorists that you are defending.
     
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    Like you have any room to talk.
     
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    I care because conservarives are being systenatically attacked on many fronts. We are getting shut down. The Antifa-terrorism is only a violent example of this.
     
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    So, what the poster said was clear, to me.

    How do we reach you?
     

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