Hundreds of murders threaten Cape Town's tourist mecca image: 'We are living in a warzone’

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  1. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wear a poncho around here when you start using facts against the left.
     
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    Blacks cause crime where ever they are in the world........doesn’t matter the poverty level........just a fact. If you don’t believe it send your sixteen year old daughter into a black neighborhood after dark...... go ahead.
     
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    The police officially lost control of the Cape Flats last weekend, over 1000 people have been murdered since the start of the year, in some areas there are 22 gangs fighting for the same territory., but it was probably long before that since this have been going on for years.

    The Coloureds (I know this is a racist term in America but not in South Africa) live in the Cape Flats

    from the history thread... some of them (Khoi Khoi and Hottentot descendants) are the true inhabitants of South Africa and one of several minority groups marginalised by the ANC Bantu tribes, they live in abject poverty.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/south-african-history-uncut.558091/#post-1070725279

    These people have always been extremely violent, even during Apartheid. After Apartheid the police force became inefficient and the inhabitants formed PAGAD (People Against Gangsterism And Drugs) but clearly the gangs have now taken control of the Cape Flats. Coloureds are vibrant expressive, fun and funny but you do not mess with them, they'll sort you out very quickly.

    The South African government have days ago decided to send in the Defence force. They really don't have much of a choice but it is going to be interesting how this plays out... especially since people still mourn the three people who died during apartheid in the Cape Flats at the hands of the police... compare that to 1000 deaths (for 2019 alone), and the violence to come, because the South African Defence force is not trained to work in civilian areas.

    I'm not sure the gangs have all that much to fear, during a recent demonstration the SADF couldn't shoot a single flare out of the air... one person commented that you could probably invade South Africa wearing a headlamp.

    South Africa to deploy army to quell violent crime in Cape Town
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-safrica-violence-idUSKCN1U71ID
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    btw I'll just add

    The gangs are fully aware that what they need to do to get the SADF to withdraw is exponentially increase the death toll... in other words create bad publicity. This is a very dangerous time for civilians living in the Cape Flats
     
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    One BLOGGER's OPINION does not alter REALITY!

    Crime does NOT "cause poverty" aside from white collar crimes that IMPOVERISH others.

    Poverty causes crime because there is NO OPPORTUNITY for gainful employment in those areas which means that crime is the only option left.
     
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    Short video about life in the Cape Flats
     
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    Yet more DEBUNKED bovine excrement!

    There is no substantiated correlation in that disinformation source.

    Try looking at facts instead of just disinformation.

    https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-justice/commentary/crime-and-economy-what-connection

    https://www.citylab.com/life/2013/09/puzzling-relationship-between-crime-and-economy/6982/
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Throwing more of the same debunked crap at the wall does not alter the fact that it is still just debunked crap.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    There is no credible factual data to support that DEBUNKED allegation.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_farm_attacks

     
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    Racial statistics are skewed because blacks are more likely to be living in poverty.

    That said we all need to tighten up our communities. Love thy neighbor and help.
     
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    @LongLineRider Way to go! You have pretty much locked up the most unguided thoughts I have heard tonight. Thanks!
     
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    WRONG again!

    Only 41% of "Coloureds" live in poverty.

    https://africacheck.org/factsheets/factsheet-south-africas-official-poverty-numbers/
     
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    You are entitled to your opinion but you have not debunked anything.
     
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    Now for some more truth..............
    The daily escalation of murders in and around South Africa has drawn recognition from International groups seeking a solution for this crisis. The term genocide is the deliberate killing of large groups of people of a particular race or ethnic group. The country’s whites are the victims of racial killings spiraling out of control. The pointless and often brutal slayings have no agenda or motive by the attackers and often it is the innocent, elderly, and young who become victims.

    Any data put out by the biased S.African Government must be seen for what it is....an attempt to cover up the truth. Just like communist nations have done throughout their history beginning with Russia.

    https://guardianlv.com/2014/04/sout...escalates-international-groups-seek-solution/
     
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    When officers from various police stations report these incidents of the murder of White Farmers.... to national headquarters, there is no provision that allows them to differentiate between commercial farms (mostly owned by whites), rural farms and smallholdings. They also do not specify if the victim is the owner of the farm, a farm worker or a visitor. Additionally, the police's statistics do not make provisions for race.

    Thus the true nature of these violent assaults and murder of white farmers in S. Africa is covered up.

    Australian minister for immigration and border protection, Peter Dutton, said recently that his department was considering fast-tracking visas for white South African farmers looking to emigrate to Australia. He said white farmers deserve "special attention" owing to the "horrific circumstances" they face in South Africa – because of government's bid to expropriate land without compensation and the increasing number of farm attacks and murders.
    https://concit.org/media-silence-on-the-deaths-and-torture-of-white-african-farmers/
     
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    Agreed!

    The FBI admits that their data is skewed because rural law enforcement agencies don't provide their crime data which leaves out a great deal of white crimes.

    A study done in Ohio with two poverty stricken neighborhoods where one was black and the other white showed virtually identical rates of crime.

    Crime occurs at higher rates in poverty stricken areas regardless of the race of those that inhabit those areas.
     
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    Dutton knows less than nothing about South Africa and is just pandering to white nationalists.
     
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    He has indeed. Take your medicine.
     
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    You have no evidence .....all you have is your biased opinion....thus it must be considered bogus.

    and................the ridiculous claim that the FBI says rural areas do not report their crime stats is ridiculous....but even if it were true....few blacks live in rural areas....so that would not skewer the black crime rate overall which is recognized by all authorities to be disproportinate to their percentage of the pop. Even obama understood that and admitted it.
     
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    People that ignore critical thinking annoy me. These are statistics. I'm not sure what trip you are on but just go cry yourself to sleep because you have brought nothing to this fight.
     
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    Oh....there are statstics you say.bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa but you do not have any that supports your bogus claims....you want some statistics? be my guest...................https://therationalists.org/2016/07/13/why-do-black-people-commit-more-crime/
     
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    Here is the link to the FBI page urging the use of caution when it comes to using their data.

    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/caution-against-ranking

    Here is the link to the scientific study in OH.

    http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.587.5383&rep=rep1&type=pdf

    Blacks are arrested and incarcerated at higher rates than whites for committing identical crimes.

    https://www.naacp.org/criminal-justice-fact-sheet/

    All FACTS that SUPPORT my position and DEBUNK your bogus allegations.
     
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    What annoys you is the truth. Admit it.
     

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