Ask your difficult questions of an Atheist.

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    You didn't mention anything that was superatural, so I took you at your word.

    Lots of things APPEAR as magic. Science does NOT have answers for everythig - there are gigantic gaps everywhere. Even stuff for which we have explanations can seem magical. Science wouldn't be interesting if we knew it all.

    Human understanding is limited. But, our frailty isn't an argument for the existence of a god.
     
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    Repeating what's already stated: At the subatomic quantum level and below, there is no solid matter. It's all energy patterns and mostly empty space (space in which virtual particles can pop in and out and transient wave energy can pass thru).

    Also, particles such as electrons are also very evasive. They're not in neat physical orbits like shown in models of atoms, but more like cloudy shell zones. If an electron's location is determined, its vector can't be accurately determined and vice versa.

    In other words, reality is a construct, but its illusory nature is not apparent at the level of objective physical reality, where the standard laws of physics apply and physical properties are consistent.
     
  3. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What about Atheist Man U supporters? Would you feel sorry for them because they believe in and follow the Man U spirit?
     
  4. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why do Atheists feel they're more knowledgeable and authoritative with religion?
     
  5. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I cannot speak for all Atheists but, For me it is not a matter of feeling more knowledgeable but a discussion and debate about individual claims made by a Christian. Granted Biblical commentary will inherently seem to be what you state due to the impossibility factor.
     
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    Technology that appears to be majic wouldn't be supernatural. Here is the definition of supernatural. Note synonyms magic, magical






    su·per·nat·u·ral
    /ˌso͞opərˈnaCH(ə)rəl/
    adjective
    1. 1.
      (of a manifestation or event) attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature.
      "a supernatural being"
      synonyms: paranormal, psychic, magic, magical, occult, mystic, mystical, miraculous, superhuman, supernormal, hypernormal, extramundane;
     
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    lets not forget the atheist version:


    met·a·phys·ics

    metaphysics

    the branch of philosophy that deals with the first principles of things, including abstract concepts such as being, knowing, substance, cause, identity, time, and space.

    abstract theory with no basis in reality.

    transcending physical matter or the laws of nature.

    Synonyms:
    abstract logical supernatural mysterious spiritual incorporeal unearthly heavenly preternatural insubstantial immaterial nonphysical abstract bodiless incorporeal theoretical hypothetical superhuman presence superphysical transcendent supernatural immaterial nonmaterial
     
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    Why do you think the Bibical God is a lunatic?
     
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    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. Thanks.
     
  10. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    What evidence ? No. As soon as you attribute everything to god, you stop searching, you stop dreaming and you settle. Why make believe. Whats wrong with saying, we don’t know if that’s the truth. Why pretend and live in deception . What’s wrong with being honest ?
     
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    Why pretend that something is true, without evidence ?
     
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    Just the opposite is true. Devout believers in a religion somehow feel they know more then people who rely on evidence. It’s like Trump who Who kept insisting that the Central Park Five were guilty without evidence because some how, just like a god, he possessed some special power.
     
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    You’re defining what an atheist believes ? That’s unfair. Just ask.
     
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    You would have to ask a religious person.
     
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    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're doing a great job of proving my statement correct!

    Once you learn that others have different beliefs and you stop trying to make them a copy of you, then you'll understand them.
     
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    Understand what ? Where can understanding ever come about without evidence. There is no understanding. It’s just faith, or belief with lack of evidence,

    Do you invest your money on the word of a robot call who wants your credit card number without evidence ? . That’s exactly what you do every time the collection plate is passed to you. Are you smarter then me because you know a secrete based upon faith that I choose not to. I Really don’t care what you believe if it’s lawful. I deserve the same respect at least.
     
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    What you like the theist version and not the atheist version?


    Why do neoatheists pretend that no God exists when they have no evidence?
    Yes neoatheists are believers since they have no fact that no God exists.
    Perfectly fair, its the dictionary, just ask rahl, its by definition.
    Yes ask a believer in the nonexistence of God what their faith is
     
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    Everyone has different beliefs and different wants. If you don't want what i want then don't tell me my want is wrong. Your wants and beliefs are good for you. When you stop trying to make others into a copy of you, then you will begin to understand others.

    So my question in part of my understanding is why do atheists believe they're so knowledgeable and authoritative with religion?
     
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    It’s wrong for me, and it’s wrong when abused. So don’t use your faith based beliefs to make legislation that effects me. Use science and evidence. The reason is simple. There are too many lies and only one truth. To pretend yours is the one way then support candidates that use their faith in decsion making, is a sure recipe for bad decisions.
     
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    What are my faith based beliefs, you do know I'm agnostic, you do know what agnostic means? I'm interested.

    Scientists invented and doctors prescribed thalidomide for ailments such as morning sickness in pregnant women. Please do discuss the faith in science. What a bad decision that was or would you disagree.
     
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    Why answer a question with a question unless you have no answer....which is typical of faith based beliefs.
     
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    There are several contradictory statements and I have no idea what your point is.
    You claim to be agnostic I guess then proclaim science is faith based. It’s you who don’t seem to know what an agnostic is, nor do you know what science is about.
    Science is encapsulated in a simple idea. “Based upon what we know and the evidence we now have, this is what we recommend with x% of certainty”

    . Is science infallible ? Absolutely not. But basing your decisions on 0% certainty, is insane. There are times too, when waiting and doing nothing because the certainty level isn’t high enough is equally insane.
    This happens in war and natural disasters on one level, and sports on a recreational level as well as mundane decision we make every day.
    Decisions like, will I get the brakes checked on my car, mount snow tires this winter or listen to a weather report before my trip. They are all science related.

    It’s really hilarious when science deniers and faith arguments are used to dismiss science, in a world where science literally, saves their lives daily and controls their existence for the better and sometimes worse on another by its misuse.

    You depend upon science more then religion every day and you don’t even know it. Your life expectancy has double because if it on one hand and Americans are suffering from diabetes at an alarming rate because of the misuse and ignorance of science on the other.
     
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    Science is not antagonist to spiritual faith. There are many scientists who are quite spiritual and for just cause in their minds.
    But, organized religion is another thing entirely. There are more then 20 major organized religions in the world wide. A devotee of any one, will dismiss as unproven, all the rest other then his own.
    An atheist or agnostic, just dismisses one more. .
     
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    It’s a rhetorical question.
     
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    I was only being polite and giving the neoatheists an opportunity to at least answer one question and get it right, but I should have known better.
    Like atheism :lol:

    Yes I know the answer to my question, clearly you dont. LOL
     
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