Who would win a civil war left vs right

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by modernpaladin, Jul 12, 2019.

  1. jay runner

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    The left had been winning a civil war by simply using the MSM, the educational system, Hollybrood, and TV for more than 50 years.

    But it no longer works since Trump was elected.
     
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    :above::above::above: Sit down, shut up and give us everything we demand. You didn't earn it
     
  3. ToddWB

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    You where doing good until you got to "self-radicalized", somebody teaches that...

    jay, a brief perusal of the site will reveal the hate and miseducation garnered by the Left, and we read about it's predictable outcome at an ICE Facility. The MSM we been affecting by the internet, of course the Left has been doing all they can to oppose views and Big Tech is on board with censoring messages from Conservatives or Christians or US Patriots, anti-first amendment which, they even , amusingly, have a violent culture of thugs that call themselves antifa.
     
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    Funny, but the only Federal gun ban in the last 10 years was when Trump signed the bump-stock ban ... Obama signed zero legislation banning guns.

    Trying to figure out how the Constitution bans giving illegal aliens paid health care - I don't agree with it, but I can't find where it's unconstitutional. Abolishing the EC isn't even close to happening, but if a Constitutional Amendment was passed (very doubtful) then it would be constitutional.

    And anyone who thinks there would be a "winner" in a civil war is crazy - there would only be survivors - and the Chinese would probably step in a mop those up.
     
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    Actually, Herb is a British ex-pat, and "peace" ain't the sign he's flashing...
     
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    Nope, you just regurgitate CNN talking points while lecturing other posters about behavior that you engage in yourself.
     
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    So military and law enforcement personnel tend to have an advantage in armed conflict over people with no training. Did that really need to be explained?
     
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    Your poor assumption is that they automatically support you. Laughable.
     
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    Perhaps you're right, but you've given no argument to the contrary. Just assertions that I am wrong absent any explanation or countervailing evidence.
     
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    All you have are your opinions. That's it. I say otherwise, and you can't really prove me wrong.
     
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    I never said they support me, I said they support rightist ideology. And that theory is backed up by a good amount of empirical evidence. Military and law enforcement personnel tend to be more conservative. Are you really arguing to the contrary?
     
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    My opinion is supported by the evidence. Military and law enforcement tend to be more conservative than liberal. Not only is that theory supported by polling data, it's supported by my own experience in the military. I didn't meet a single person who would qualify as a "liberal" during my time in the infantry. However, I did meet several who qualified as conservative. Is that really surprising?
     
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    What makes you think I'm having trouble sleeping? You're the one who seems to be triggered by the discussion we're having.
     
  14. rcfoolinca288

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    Did you even see the video? The premise for a war is that the right won no more elections so they would rise up. What military which swore to uphold the Constitution would defend such idiocy. Do tell.
     
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    Your opinion and evidence means nothing. The military will enforce and uphold the Constitution no matter which sides their "ideology" align with.
     
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    I'm not advocating for any war, I'm advocating for a peaceful and negotiated dissolution of the union as an alternative to war. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening.

    Anyway, majorities tend to be docile and passive. Wars are usually fought in spite of their desires.

    Red States have lots of blue cities inside them. Do you suppose that might have something to do with it?

    And I don't agree that both sides are heavily armed. Aside from criminal elements, urban populations are essentially disarmed. Their local governments saw to that.
     
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    Nope, I just tell it like it is. I happen to be in agreement with CNN most of the time because they, too, tell it like it is. I often say things off the cuff that they and MSNBC end up saying later.
     
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    Now let me counter with some specific examples:

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    These are the people who march for peace and call for Donald Trump's assassination, who decry violence and call for Republicans to be attacked, who preach tolerance and demand businesses refuse to do business with conservatives, who promote free speech but demand that right-wing voices be silenced, who want open borders but live in gated communities. These are the people who in one breath defend women's rights and in the next defend Muslims even though Islam is the most repressive ideology on the planet when it comes to women. These are the people who demand that all gun owners give up their guns because a few crazies shoot up schools but demand that we not condemn all Muslims because a few million are terrorists. These are the people who insist that free health care is a right, but the right to life of the unborn is not a right. These are the people who deny that religious freedom is a right even though it's in the 1st Amendment but insist that gay marriage is a right even though it isn't anywhere in the Constitution. These are the people who insist that Trump obstructed justice even though there was no crime to be covered up but insist that Hillary didn't obstruct justice even though there was a crime that she was covering up.

    The left... if it weren't for double standards, they'd have no standards at all.
     
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    CNN is nothing more than a corporate propaganda machine spewing lies and falsehoods, so it's not surprising that you find yourself in agreement with them the majority of the time.
     
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    deleted due to redundancy
     
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    Many in the military would interpret resistance to the Democratic agenda as upholding the constitution.
     
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    Yeah, but not for lack of effort on the part of urban Democrats.

    It's unconstitutional because there is no enumerated power authorizing the government to do it.

    The Democrats have never let a little thing like the constitution get in the way of their authoritarian agenda.
     
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    Good point, actually. It's also very true.
     
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    Is anyone on the left threatening such a thing or figuring out the logistics?

    Sorry, but saying you don't want something and then going on about how you're going to get it and how it's going to be seems pretty suspect to me.
     
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    Once again, you have yet to demonstrate how anything I've said is a 'threat' but still keep calling it that regardless...

    Why is it so hard to understand that I don't want this to happen, but rather Im worried it may happen and Im trying to tell people how to prevent it?
     
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