Trump's Raids are meant to terrorize Americans. So I decided to help stop this.

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Except that Congress are constitutionally the judges and magistrates in what pertains to the executive branch. And the subpoenas are the warrants.
     
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    Moonglow Well-Known Member

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    I live in a red state called Missouri and I work in the surrounding Red states of Oklahoma, Kansas and Arkanass and I have been doing as such since 1986...Now if you can stop projecting and calm yer ass down you might convince me of yer lies...
    First off you wouldn't hire them if they had false papers or false ID because you would be using the E Verify program to verify their identities, so again you are so full of a certain fecal matter..
    I have been in the masonry business since 1978 and worked on many crews until I started my own business in 1987. I never had to hire illegals because I refused to hire illegals. I did happen to hire veterans since I am a veteran, I hire family men because I too was a family man, I hired American born citizens because I refused to hire the men that would replace me in a heartbeat if the capitalist pigs had their way...It's like sharpening the knife that will slit yer own throat...You my friend hire the illegals that you accuse me of.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Should I even bother to explain to this guy that the OP proves that Democrats are the ones who are for the rule of law?

    Probably not. I don't think you'd get it.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    There is no "deportation order" or "fugitive". Read the OP.!
    Wrong! Your reading comprehension is pathetic. It tells ICE officials that they have only two options: show a warrant or go away!
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They are against 'zero tolerance' which is following the laws congress passed. Tell me again how they are for the rule of law?
     
  6. Moonglow

    Moonglow Well-Known Member

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    Then I will take that as a zero sum of injunctions to stop the raids or the collection of those with warrants...So the Dems are not fighting it legally just in the court of public opinion...Which is not much of a fight since it is a minority faction of capitalist drones doing it...
     
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    It's just a ruse! Just another parroting immigration speech funneled down to their chirpers like they do, always do and WILL always do..
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Oh God!

    • I do not wish to speak with you, answer your questions, or sign or hand you any documents based on my 5th Amendment rights under the United States Constitution.
    • I do not give you permission to enter my home based on my 4th Amendment rights under the United States Constitution unless you have a warrant to enter, signed by a judge or magistrate with my name on it that you slide under the door.
    • I do not give you permission to search any of my belongings based on my 4th Amendment rights.
    • I choose to exercise my constitutional rights.
    • These cards are available to citizens and noncitizens alike
    That, is the "rule of law"
     
  9. Moonglow

    Moonglow Well-Known Member

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    Nothing new because we have been seeing the proliferation of the migrants with our own eyes over the past fifty years...
    plus ca change plus c'est la meme chose - "the more things change, the more they stay the same," (Les Guêpes, July 1848).
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Thank you, this is a valuable service

    Trumperica becomes the Fourth Reich more and more each day. Why are so many here so ignorant of what's happening? Is bashing a few immigrants who weren't doing any harm really worth overthrowing mankind's last best hope on Earth?
     
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  11. PrincipleInvestment

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    Your OP is seriously deficient per your norm. The raids that Trump authorized this weekend were focused on removing 2000 specific individuals. Courts contacted the individuals in February, and ordered them to surrender themselves. They didn't so deportation orders were given to ICE. https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/201...mmigration-raids-for-two-weeks/1221561213188/ So ... the targets were in fact FUGITIVES, having already been ordered by the court to surrender themselves months ago.
     
  12. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Fall for what? Facts? Of course not! Facts are meaningless to you!

    So why would I even bother to point out that I have never said that they were citizens of the United States? I mean, as stated above, facts are meaningless to you.

    This is the part where you realize you messed up and try to twist the conversation and change the subject.... Ready?... Go!
     
  13. Moonglow

    Moonglow Well-Known Member

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    They were doing the same in the 1960-70's till it died out with the war with Iran in 1989..
    Yet the confederates are still fighting mad about the yankees moving down south.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which, of course, has nothing to do with my post about zero tolerance on the border.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    So you're telling me that if there's no warrant it's because they haven't committed any criminal act

    Wow!

    What an "unexpected" turn of events! Then why are we calling them "illegal" aliens?
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am sure ICE is in total terror of your "Red Cards".
    Remember to "resist"
     
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    The people being rounded up have removal orders against them signed by a judge. They have had their day in court and been found unqualified for asylum. They have failed to honor the removal orders. Thanks to OP for the propaganda but the constitution has nothing to do with these removals.

    If people are terrorized by law enforcement activities then they are on the wrong side of the law.
     
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  18. Moonglow

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    No, a citizen can make a complaint and someone can be arrested from that complaint..From what I understand the feds have expulsion warrants to obtain the habeas corpus delicti...
     
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    This little election campaign stunt Trump pulled with the ICE raids are just as weak as his attempts to make Iran look like it attacked a Japanese tanker, oh so very frickin weak..Lmao-rotf...Yet the partisans suck up the vile and fight about it, just what your leaders want you to do...
     
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    Democrats defending criminals.

    It's what they do.
     
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    Do I? NO, I am not a lawyer.
    But the arresting officer reads the miranda rights.
    A lawyer will advice them of rights.
    So, all criminals are advised of their rights.

    Why has no one read tRUMPs his rights and gone after him. He now knows he had employees in his companies that knowingly hired illegal immigrants.
    He has done nothing about those criminals in his employment. Making him at this time, an accomplice.
    I think, actually know, the RW just blows smoke up everyone's arse. They are really interested in fixing any issue with immigration. tRUMP proves it by letting criminals stay employed by him.
     
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    :roflol: Hee haw! Golem put like a dozen words in your mouth and his pretzel logic rationalization STILL made zero sense. Why do we call 'em illegals? :omfg:
     
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    The left does love little red things.
     
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    But, but, but, democrats want to get rid of ICE and are for getting rid of any law making entry illegal.
     

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