The Way of Holiness and the Sacred Hoop by Robert Mendelson

I have read this book several times and it has
helped me to come to the realization that genuine
peace on earth is possible........ and even
peace between Israelis and Palestinians can
be achieved.

This will NOT be easy......
but we need to realize that we are something like reality film stars
in a film series produced and directed by intelligences that
existed from infinite time in the past....... the G-d of Abraham is the
greatest educator in the universe / Multiverse..... and turning each of us into reality film
stars seems to have been the method that G-d / HaShem / YHWH has decided to use to teach all of us.

OK... yes.. we are far more than merely reality film stars... but if you take a look at
the Life Reviews reported by near death experiencers you will have
evidence...... that at the least...at the minimum...... we must be something like that!



http://godspeaceplan.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Way-of-Holiness-the-Sacred-Hoop.pdf

 

I also read "God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land" several times but
I just could not see how this plan could actually work.......
until after I had read "The Way of Holiness and the Sacred Hoop" and finally......
I became convinced that genuine peace between Palestinians and Israelis is indeed possible.........
but yes...... miracles will be involved as the G-d of Abraham comes closer to humanity again.

The full text of "God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land" by Robert Mendelson can be viewed here:
http://godspeaceplan.blogspot.ca/2014/07/gods-peace-plan-for-holy-land-peace.html


but now for another segment of "The Way of Holiness and the Sacred Hoop":

Mr. Robert Mendelson..... it is imperative that we realize that the G-d of Abraham, the Creator of heaven and earth.......HAS SPOKEN TO EVERYONE.....not just to our group, denomination or tribe!

Here is the link to the full PDF of "God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land" by Robert Mendelson:

http://godspeaceplan.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Gods-Peace-Plan-for-the-Holy-Land.pdf

 

My own answer to the poll question was....."Yes... all of us are in for big surprises" because
when I first read God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land" it seemed way too far politically left for my thinking.......
I just could not imagine giving so much to the Palestinian people without putting Jewish Israelis in great danger but......
when I finally read "The Way of Holiness and the Sacred Hoop" I got so many shocks to my thought process.......
that I went into something of a state of awe......
and frankly......
I believe that Mr. Robert Mendelson indeed had one of those II Corinthians 12:2-4 type of experiences.....
and if he had not had that.... then he could not have figured out all of this either!

And now to quote you another section of his astonishing book.... .that truly......
has changed the way that I think and process information..... especially the Christian scriptures.

 

"Black Elk Speaks", p.33, Black Elk;

Black Elk has given us the key to peace / Shalom on earth.......
we must come to realize that our people..... our group..... our denomination.....
our tribe..... our organization...... is ONE HOOP.... one of many hoops.......
that form one massive circle......

...... and I believe that Black Elk would agree that the hoop of his people.......
does not go against the contribution of Jewish people to history.......
and to Tikkun Olam....."the repair of the world."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tikkun_olam

https://www.near-death.com/experiences/native-american.html

I am of the belief that the First Nations peoples of Canada!

Yes.... Canada..... hold the key to achieving genuine peace in the Middle East!

Why the First Nations peoples of Canada?

The best theory that I can come up with so far is because they have been placed in the land of the north... that American Jews will migrate to........
before they make Aliyah to Israel!







Jeremiah 16:14¶
Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that it shall no more be said, The LORD liveth, that brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;

But, The LORD liveth, that brought up the children of Israel from the land of the north, and from all the lands whither he had driven them: and I will bring them again into their land that I gave unto their fathers."

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/exodus-usa.520741/
Exodus USA

 

Sorry... my comment in post #1

... should have been......

... sometimes those 19 minutes of editing time are just not enough to catch all errors and omissions.

 

None of this was shown to pertain to Israel/Palestine in any way.

In fact, when I read these various religious pieces what I hear is:

"God is love, let's all live together in peace and understanding"
and
"God says I can steal everything you own and drive you out at gun point, which I will do as I recognize your religion and heritage are impossible to countenance" and "I'll start by stealing the best land".

 

Theologians and philosophers from all persuasions and creeds must
come up with some sort of hierarchy of scripture.......
in order to make judgment calls on the situations that they face daily.

It can be argued that the following verses are the most basic fundamental laws of
Christianity:

Matthew 22:37 - 39

I am suggesting to Muslims that they should take a look at the following Suras.....
and begin to consider them basic to their religion........
rather than the Suras related to warfare that are emphasized by so many at this time.


http://godspeaceplan.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Gods-Peace-Plan-for-the-Holy-Land.pdf
God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land
A Peace Plan for Israel/Palestine conforming to guidelines from the Bible and Qur’an presented by Robert Leon Mendelson

If it were not for Mr.Robert Mendelson's book I would perhaps never have read these Sura's that can be used as a foundation for genuine peace in the Middle East.

 

Let's not be ridiculous.

You're not going to change people's religious beliefs. And, you aren't going to get Palestine to concede their futures by trying to quote the Bible or the Qur'an to them.


What we do need to do is to stop the ethnic cleansing of Palestine and to demand an end to the Israeli war on Gaza.

 

The Bible, at least in the old testament, was always big on genocide and clearing the land of non-believers and those who worshiped differently.

The Israeli situation would also be fixed by clearing out the West Bank and destroying Gaza. "Mowing the grass" as it were.

 

It's called logic, and yes, the rest of humanity will one day figure it out.

 

On one level.....
the Palestinians should be more accommodating toward Israel due to the fact that the IDF
has arguably the fourth most powerful military on earth..............
........ the leaders of the Palestinians are taking their people on an impossible mission......
by telling them that they can drive the Israelis into one sea or another... .and have
all the land of Israel all to themselves.

Many foreign powers paid Mr. Yasser Arafat serious money to make sure that
genuine peace and cooperation with Israel would never happen.

http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,782141,00.html

Bodybuard of Mr. Yassar Arafat prepared to kill him if he signed at Camp David!!!!

 

The IDF says Abbas is their most important partner in peace. Years back, the IDF changed the rules to allow Abbas more police power (including weapons) in order to be more able to provide security.

Abbas has been a major force in requiring negotiation and eschewing force. Your "drive them to the sea" stuff is pure Israeli propaganda.

AND, how much more accommodating can Palestine possibly be as they sit by and watch as Israel carries out ethnic cleansing operations against them???

Your trip back in time is a gigantic disservice to the cause of peace today.

Since that time, the governments of both Gaza and West Bank have stated that Israel is a permanent neighbor with whom they will live in peace and that the only path forward is through negotiation without violence.

Plus, I just don't see your accusation of payolla as being supported in your cite. For example, it doesn't show Arafat as being avaricious, nor does it point to Arafat's final decision as being a quid pro quo.

Arafat was a LONG time ago. The very idea of dredging him up as an excuse for the ethnic cleansing of today can't be more than a profound sin.

 

True.

Giving no credence to the new testament, the old testament does have more of an influence. And, the old testament has cases of horrendous slaughter - the terrorism of Jericho, the slaughter of the Midianite prisoners and the taking of the virgin girls for division between their generals.

And of course, it also includes God giving land to "his" people, regardless of who is living there.

The ethnic cleansing of Palestine is certainly not outside the mainstream of the old testament.

Of course, we immediately recognize it for the crime it is when certain terrorist groups make essentially identical claims.

 

You are correct that Abbas is a MASSIVE IMPROVEMENT over Yasser Arafat who
was used as a pawn...... to organize his people to serve as pawns... in a plan originated
in Russia to get a billion Muslims to unite against Israel.......
in a gambit that would supposedly lead to the destruction of the USA.

You are correct that now with Abbas it really is a new environment where progress can be made
but it is important that the Palestinian people know where much of the ideas of the leadership
with Arafat really came from:

http://www.tldm.org/news9/russianinfluenceonmideast.htm

The massive stash of weapons found by the IDF when they invaded southern Lebanon in 1982 should tell Palestinians what Arafat was really planning....... nothing short of genocide on the Jewish people....... exactly as he was saying in speeches that he made in Arabic rather than English.

 

Yes.......... and the leadership of the Palestinian people have
been putting pressure on Palestinian Christians to leave
the Palestinian territories........ for decades......
supposedly having one homogeneous group of people who
all believe much of the same things will set them up for victory.

http://www.theforeignreport.com/2013/01/09/palestine-the-decline-of-christianity-in-the-west-bank/

Palestine: The decline of Christianity in the West Bank

......

Many Israeli Jews also want to see Palestinian Christians leave the area.

Several near death experiencers have been shown that a massive positive shift is coming related to how we deal with people who aren't exactly like us philosophically.


http://www.thomastwin.com/7 A Thomas samples.html

 

After saying all that you are still stuck on Arafat???

Yes, there was a time when Palestinians believed they had to respond militarily to defend the land that was blatantly stolen from them by the construction of Israel.

I really do NOT know why anyone is surprised by that. What case in history has ever seen an action like that be accepted by an indigenous population that had zero representation and received no consideration?

The FAR more surprising thing is that Abbas has held to a nonviolent direction, cooperating with Israel on security while Israel is actively ethnically cleansing the very population he represents!!!

That should be STARTLING!!

I don't know of a year when he shouldn't have been the recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize.

His name should go down in history along with Ghandi, Mandela, and a very few others - a list that would clearly include absolutely NO Israelis and quite likely no Americans.

 

Given that the USA, perhaps the major and most self described Christian nation of the world supports Israeli ethnic cleansing of West Bank in a highly public and overt manner, I'd be surprised if there weren't some amount of opposition rubbing off on Christians - even though the Christians in Palestine are not like most US citizens who claim to be Christian.

Similarly, we hate Muslims as an assumption that they are "like" some other population that happens to hold that religion - regardless if there is any actual similarity.

I can't possibly accept near death experiences as evidence of anything at all. The human brain has been clearly shown to NOT magically stop at some point detected as death. What happens is that the brain's function starts getting really bad input from its sources of information (the senses) and starts failing in terms of logic. So, we get dreams, near death experiences, etc., based on the deprecated ability of the brain in these states. The same happens when we take chemicals that deprecate brain function or there is brain damage, leaving us with fantastical interpretations of our senses.

 

Here is a great article by the same author on how the doctrine of hell confuses and offends people.

 

http://psychiclibrary.com/beyondBooks/aura-colors-and-meanings/

 

I have to admit that this is indeed a fact of history!!!!

 

I shall try again.........
but on one level i personally found that I had to read this first before I could even begin to understand his GPP.....

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...n-for-the-holy-land-hebrew-and-arabic.530301/


God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land, Hebrew and Arabic.

 

In what way is that any different that what I stated?

 

Perhaps not much different at all..........
but everything that I write is from the point of view of somebody who you would tend to call "politically right" on most topics but...... I have been confronted with so much information relevant to the political left over this past decade that I may well be facing pretty serious levels of "cognitive dissonance."

If you have the free time I would be honoured if you took a look at my attempt to market a Basic Minimum Income to the pro-life community......
as well as to supporters of President Trump......
which obviously would appear to be a really strange thing to do on the surface.



http://www.politicalforum.com/index...writings-as-art.534297/page-2#post-1072329875

 

I haven't seen you as being particularly right wing.

I think our differences are much more rooted in your tendency to accept suggestions that contain elements of magical thinking - which can include spirituality, or whatever.

And, I'm not opposed to spirituality. I think there can be benefits in working toward peace at all levels, for example. And, I see our society as far too ready to ignore those who are struggling. Nobody with an ounce of spirituality could condone the US kidnapping children with no intent to ever reuniting them with their parents, for example.

But, when magical thinking is proposed in place of what has been carefully observed concerning how this universe works, I stop seeing that as beneficial and start noticing where it can be harmful to the wellbing of humans on Earth.

We went through that this last year with COVID. The USA denied medical science in favor of magical thinking. As a result, we have 500,000 dead people and failed to help those outside our country. We have 20% of the world dead from COVID while having less than 5% of the population. We did worse than many countries that aren't nearly so rich.

Depending on the supernatural in realms where reality can be dispassionatly analyzed is not just a poorly founded direction, it is seriously dangerous to humans.

I don't see that as being specific to the right wing - although recently there have been hugely problematic examples propagated by the right wing - at least in the US.

 

Thank you for this exceptional response to this topic and to this rather colossal subject.

You might find the rather unique topic that I began today to be either encouraging or interesting or both.

Boosting our immune response to fight COVID 19?

I feel that my rather weak immune system as of 1998 sets me up in a unique way to very possible be able to be helpful to the average person as they face the threat of COVID 19??????